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SAUDIS TELL U.S. FORCES TO GET OUT
The Guardian ^ | 01-18-02 | The Guardian

Posted on 01/18/2002 5:13:23 PM PST by StopDemocratsDotCom

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To: CreekerFreeper
Prince Sultan Airbase was built to our specs, tooled for our equipment and support, and the Saudi's would rather have Saddam Hussain in there before they would the ChiComs. This story is the work of the RATS, Carl Levin started this rumor and the left leaning press took it hook line and sinker and just "piling on" along with their pipe dream "ENRONGATE"
101 posted on 01/18/2002 6:54:34 PM PST by MJY1288
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To: DainBramage
"On the one hand I say "Adios" but on the other hand there are some tough implications for the protection of Israel if we were needed. "

if isreal nukes the arabs, will they give us a "better deal" on oil?

102 posted on 01/18/2002 6:54:44 PM PST by hoot2
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To: oldvike
Alrighty then. I think we should tell Sadam that Saudi Arabia is fair game.

1) sock away two years supply worth of oil in strategic petroleum reserve.

2) take the leash off Saddam.

3) after Saddam deflowers SA, ride in, depose Saddam and occupy it indefinitely as a US 'protectorate'.


BUMP

103 posted on 01/18/2002 6:55:15 PM PST by tm22721
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To: zog
to sum it all up, WORLD WAR III and the ATTEMPTED destruction of israel loom very, very imminently in the quagmire from hell known as "the middle east." and we'll be fine, as long as the russians either stay out of it, or work on our side. other than that, china can hop into the fray and find itself blown back 5000 years like the rest of them. these arabs are smoking some serious stuff if they think theyre going to survive an overwhelming onslaught from the american, british, and israeli air forces. which makes me wonder.... is bin laden in pakistan with NUKES and musharaff keeps claiming hes sure bin baby is dead to deflect attention? seems to me that the pakis have tried to instigate a party with india with the terrorist attack on 13 december. a "war" with the indians would be a convenient time for bin laden and al qaeda to wrest control of the pakis NUKES and think theyre going to launch a few at israel, or ANYWHERE, including out to sea, that bin baby and friends think they can destroy vast numbers of american troops. the arabs DO NOT have a problem with bin laden, the silence has been deafening. if they wanted him caught, hed have been caught by september 18. this is a huge plot to lure the US and israel into their own destruction.
105 posted on 01/18/2002 6:58:57 PM PST by nocommies
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To: boris
Can we now get to the point where the bullet hits the bone.I am extremely tired of carrying most of the world on the backs of USA taxes. If the people in the "far and middle east" want to play around with war-let them kill each other off.If they are so upset with the current balance of powers,then let them start supporting themselves,totally.

NO MORE US MONETARY/FOOD AID TO ANYONE.Why cant the "new world order" mean we dont bail out the idiots? We obviously cant "save" them from themselves.They dont want their own prosperity, they want to steal ours.If that means we have a lot of private US and international companies go bankrupt-OK.That is business,we will survive recessions and even depressions.Most people I know can handle that better than living under terorrist threats.Will there be any point in time that this country stands up for ourselves and not be at the mercy of jealous, greedy barbarians?From within and without?

106 posted on 01/18/2002 6:59:54 PM PST by sarasmom
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom
It's true. More to the point, they want a withdrawl because of the perception about racism with American government policy. This is another notch in the belt towards the CIA.
107 posted on 01/18/2002 7:00:50 PM PST by Buckeroo
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom
I'd love to see the chirade of them being our "ally" brought to a close. Bet they holler for help when Saddam comes a' knockin. At which time we should tell them...

MM

108 posted on 01/18/2002 7:01:09 PM PST by MississippiMan
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom
Saudi Arabia's rulers are poised to throw US strategy in the Middle East into disarray by asking Washington to pull its forces out of the kingdom because they have become a "political liability". Senior Saudi officials have privately complained that the US has "outstayed its welcome"....

Well then, let's destroy our base, nuke Mecca and Medina and get the heck out.

109 posted on 01/18/2002 7:02:23 PM PST by Dec31,1999
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To: Rubber Duckie
Ottoman Empire? Good idea!
110 posted on 01/18/2002 7:03:32 PM PST by Shermy
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To: steveo
Oil oil everywhere but not a drop to drink. Fuel cells will be the demise of the Saudi regime. Then they can cut each other and bomb each other in the name of their 'profit' while we drive exhausting H2O.

and a sweet day that will be. the shocking thing is how fast they will go broke and be forgotton. let them drink saltwater.
nice quote btw
111 posted on 01/18/2002 7:04:42 PM PST by Waeismic
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To: DainBramage
On the one hand I say "Adios" but on the other hand there are some tough implications for the protection of Israel if we were needed.

I think Israel can take care of itself, when the US constraints are lifted.

112 posted on 01/18/2002 7:05:41 PM PST by Go Gordon
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom
Screw 'em. We should bomb them on the way out. Hell,we should have bombed them to start with,since that is where most of the money that finances the terrorists comes from.
114 posted on 01/18/2002 7:08:06 PM PST by sneakypete
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom
He said six years ago: "There is no more important duty than pushing the American enemy out of the holy land [of Arabia]."

As you wish. But not before we take out your center of operations. Now y'all can pray to a radioactive crater.

115 posted on 01/18/2002 7:09:44 PM PST by Dec31,1999
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To: Dan Day
Hard to say what will happen here.

We're still highly dependent on oil from the Muslim world, particularly the Middle East, and will be for the forseeable future - barring some unexpected technological breakthrough. If we don't have a good alternative to the Prince Sultan - and aircraft carriers are not a good alternative - then we must fight for it.

Some will say that we don't have to control the oil. Muslims are just as dependent upon oil revenue as we are upon oil. I don't buy it. The fundamentalists are willing to starve, to die in order to bring us down. Even selling out Israel - our only good bargaining chip - won't help. It would just feed their egos.

116 posted on 01/18/2002 7:10:10 PM PST by liberallarry
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom
Didn't some guy from Texas that's now in Washington say something like "either you are with us or against us"?
117 posted on 01/18/2002 7:10:44 PM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: DainBramage
On the one hand I say "Adios" but on the other hand there are some tough implications for the protection of Israel if we were needed.

Israel wasn't a part of the United States the last time I checked. Too bad for Israel if this has tough implications for them.

118 posted on 01/18/2002 7:11:14 PM PST by sneakypete
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom; all
Terrorism Is Just Means of Fighting

Militant Islamic Fundamentalism Is the Enemy

By Linda Chavez

The Week of October 22, 2001

We are not fighting a war on terrorism. Terrorism is the means by which our enemy chooses to wage war against us, but we should not confuse its tactics with the nature of the enemy itself.

The enemy has an ideology. It has a command structure. It has troops. And it is clear in its aim—nothing short of the destruction of our civilization.

The enemy is militant Islamic fundamentalism. The command structure is made up of hundreds of mullahs around the world, including some living in this country, who preach death to the infidels.

Its troops include not just the thousands of trained terrorists but the millions of others who support the mullahs and finance the terrorists through their donations to radical Islamic groups. To pretend otherwise risks not only our own defeat, but that of the moderate Moslem world as well.

Threat Extends Across the World

In his 1996 book The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order, Harvard political scientist Samuel P. Huntington presciently described "a quasi war develop[ing] between Islam and the West." Even before the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, Huntington noted, "many more Westerners have been killed in this quasi war than were killed in the ‘real’ war in the Gulf."

The direction of Islam as a religion has become increasingly threatening to nonbelievers, not just in the West but throughout the world. Its threat extends beyond the Middle East to Asia and Africa, even to the United States, where some fundamentalist imams spread their hateful doctrines protected by our 1st Amendment.

Not all, or even most, Moslems are our enemies, certainly. Indeed, the moderate Islamic nations are on the front lines of this war and have been among its first casualties, starting with the Iranian revolution in 1979. Some of the most brutal tactics of the fundamentalists have been used against fellow Muslims in Egypt, Morocco, Afghanistan and elsewhere.

Nonetheless, the response of virtually every moderate Moslem leader to the threat posed by fundamentalists has been to accede to the fundamentalists’ interpretation of Islam, and to further the Islamization of all social, cultural, and political institutions in their countries.

Even Turkey, which since Mustafa Kemal Ataturk’s policies of secularization in the 1920s and 1930s has been the most pro-Western Moslem nation, has become more Islamist in the last few years. As Huntington observed, every Moslem country in the world is more Islamist today than it was two decades ago, with the exception of Iran—but only because Iran was the vanguard of the Islamic Revolution.

Despite what our leaders keeping telling us, Islam is not inherently a peaceful religion. Unlike Christianity, in whose name wars have been fought but without any Scriptural basis to support those wars to be found in the teachings of Jesus Christ, Islam can find explicit justification for its jihad or "holy war" within its sacred text.

The Koran instructs believers to "slay the idolaters . . . make war on the leaders of unbelief—for no oaths are binding with them—so that they may desist. Will you not fight against those who have broken their oaths and conspired to banish the Apostle? They were the first to attack you. Do you fear them? Surely God is more deserving of your fear, if you are true believers. Make war on them: God will chastise them at your hands and humble them."

The Koran is filled with elaborate instructions on the conduct of war, the methods of executing the infidels, the rewards that will accrue to those martyred in a holy war.

The very nature of fundamentalism is to take these instructions literally. And there is plenty of historical precedent. For nearly 1,000 years, Europe was under nearly constant siege from Islamic invaders, from the first Moors who conquered Spain in 710 to the last Ottoman attack on Vienna in 1683. So long as the trend within the Moslem world today is toward a fundamentalist interpretation of Islam, the West will continue to face a new threat to its survival.

________________

Linda Chavez, a nationally syndicated columnist, is president of the Center for Equal Opportunity .

© Human Events, 2001

120 posted on 01/18/2002 7:12:47 PM PST by CreekerFreeper
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