Posted on 01/15/2002 7:22:51 PM PST by nunya bidness
I have never liked gofers, particularly in government service, a servile, boot licking group if ever there was one.
I'm glad to hear that a real expert is in charge of transportation security.
Dang it, I guess I'm keeping company on the wrong threads--I'm contantly banging heads with the Bush Butt Boyz n Gurls! Oh, I hear the "well, I really don't like this _______ that he did, but overall he's the greatest thing since apple pie, Motherhood, and Chevrolets!"
..."Just wait until he signs the bill to keep the Assault Weapons Ban in place,and people will be dropping like flies"...
Y'know, sneakypete....I don't even know if the average Joe will have a clue--who is going to do the spoon-feeding of the truth to them?
One term.....oh I hope so--but if something doesn't happen in 3 years to get the people stirred up enough that 'they aren't gonna take it anymore', we'll just get another Shrub maybe dressed up as an Elizabeth Dole or whatnot.
CVA66SNIPE: " The whole problem is he never said he wouldn't. Much of the so called Bush legacy or platform did not actually come from him. It came from wishfull thinkers who thought he was pro-second ammendment and Joe Conservative. Had they turned off the tv for five minutes and read his stands on those issues then they would know"....
BINGO! GIVE THAT MAN THE CIGAR!!!
Exactly......conservatives were desperate to hear anything but Clinton and 'thought' they heard him say this or that. This is borne out on many threads when people complain of something or other that he's done. Take ESCR--the Bush Boyz & Bots are saying that when he said he was against killing embryos and doing research that it is different that using already dead embryos.....it has nothing to do with whether using an embryos tissues is wrong or right.
I was on a thread the other day reading where people were upset about his EO on executive privilege on presidential papers, and justice department paperwork....and the Bots were assuring everyone that Bush had never said he's go after anyone!
It's all this word mistering and spinning......and CVA is absolutely right about no one actually sitting down and reading what the guy was spewing out. You also have to read what he 'isn't saying. For me, that included the famous stump speechifying routine where he'd look tough and say, "and when I take the oath I will uphold the laws and bring dignity and honor to the Oval Office"....looking at the oath, dignity and honor are NOT mentioned; just as he DIDN'T mention the Constitution--which is a part of the oath of office!
All the whoring that went on during the campaign when Bush Bots here were challenged over his obviously lying about and breaking a pledge to the people of Texas over raising taxes was an eye-opener to anyone that WANTED to learn for themselves. Only one (1) of his supporters on those threads was honest enough to admit he had made a pledge and broke it. The person went on to say that he was willing to overlook that 'gaffe' for the good of the overall picture!
I myself was told by a FReeper that I should 'just forget everything I'd ever read or heard about Bush; vote for him; she was sure I'd be happy'. This coming from a supposed conservative who wasn't much bothered by the Texas Victory 2000 club withholding campaign funds told me volumes! And, yup, sneakypete....one of those 'ain't he so cute in a pair of tight fittin jeans' broads!
While I can't pinpoint the date exactly, approximatley 5 years ago, I was catching the news on the Christian Broadcast Network (?)--at the start of Pat Robertson's 700 Club--and they mentioned a computer story they would be featuring shortly....so I hung around to see what that was about.
The story was about a computer so fast that it would take every man, woman, and child in the US figuring 24/7 from that point (early May) til the end of the year to figure out an answer this computer came up with in something like 1/2 or 1 nano second!
They went on to describe a program it was currently working....a 'model' city of 250,000 people--supposedly, it was being used to determine traffic patterns so the city could better plan their transportation needs. The story mentioned the National Lab, Sandia, in NM--but I can't remember if it was because the computer was connected to theirs OR if if was a work of art created by Sandia! I do remember feeling anxiety over this.
A town of 250,000 might not seem like much....but consider, prior to the Census, in working groups, you could watch on TV as they demonstrated maps they had for all the counties and cities, clear down to identifying individual apartments in a building. This has been reinforced by listening to a boring HUD meeting back when Cisneros was the Secy--a meeting where they used an overhead projector to flip right into an address in San Francisco (has a hell of a lot more than 250,000 people)--and it was just seconds from taking the map down from the Frisco area down to the neighborhood, street, and individual building!
And also, as I just recently found out, the United States Postal Service keeps databases of all addresses; they certainly keep track of who lives there.
I've flagged, Benighted, to this post to see if she can recall during all the OSCE/FATF/BANKING/KYC research if she ever came across any tenacles suggestive of international tracking/id. Her stab at research was a lot later than mine was. Just to make a comment or two, the OSCE or OECS or whatever the blazes alphabet it really is consists of something like 26 nations that control banking around the world--actually more than banking--it involves law enforcement, procecutions, making uniform forfeiture/punishment laws for the world. The black-balling of the Caribbean Island nations is a result of this group of 26 (though I believe there is a much narrower core group of nations) demanding their tax laws come into conformance to what OSCE wants.
Sneakypete, it is amazing what people will do when they become hungry....or worse yet, when their little children become hungry. This 'safety' thing is a woman's emotional need, like 'security'. Its a damn shame that soccer moms and the Bots think Bubba Bush is gonna save them, or any government for that matter.
Americans are hung up with this "I am important"....in the scheme of things, we are but individual pissants......if fedgov didn't give a damn about the POWS/MIAS left behind in WWII, Korea, and 'Nam--if trade was more important that the men who defended this nation--what makes you think you are more important than a pissant?
Or even a baglady. You can sometimes even get excellent investment advise on things like cattle futures.Just ask Buh-Bette!
You have a point. Most of the Bush-Bots wouldn't believe it,even if their mamas told it to them. justshutupandtakeit doesn't even believe Bubba Bush signed a XO to block criminal investigations into Bubba-1 and Buh-Bette!. One term.....oh I hope so--but if something doesn't happen in 3 years to get the people stirred up enough that 'they aren't gonna take it anymore', we'll just get another Shrub maybe dressed up as an Elizabeth Dole or whatnot.
Or even worse,the actual Giddy Dole. The RNC has her all dressed-up and impersonating a conservative as I type these words. They want her in Helms Senate seat,and they may even be thinking of this as a springboard to the VP and then the presidential spot.
Speaking of carpet bagging....have you seen where the excuses are made that she really isn't a carpet bagger because her Momma lives there, so she has ties?
That logic is reminescent of the Hildebeast being a New Yawker cause the Giants are her team!!
BUMP
The only practical difference between Giddy and Buh-Bette! is that Giddy is probably smarter,and is most definitely more charming. Both women owe every job or position they have ever had their whole adult lives to sleeping with the right men. As for Giddy believing in the 2nd Amendment,this would be a first.Hell,her husband doesn't even believe in it. He's the main reason we still have the so-called Assault Weapons Ban to start with. Repeal had already been voted on in the House,and there were enough votes in the Senate to repeal it. Dole sat on the bill so it wouldn't be brought up for a vote.
BTW,I will always be convinced that "DOLE!" is the sound Homer Simpson makes when he screws-up and slaps his forehead.
LOL!
LOL....ahem....pretty scary any way you look at it.
Stay well - Stay safe - Atay armed - Yorktown
Because when they get to that point, some of us will have very high numbers.
And before that, our credit and debit cards will start getting error messages: "number invalid, report to central control for credit verification".
When we flip out over the repeated "mistakes" with our accounts, they will have the proof they need of the danger we present.
Voila, probable cause to take our guns away at the very least.
And if you resist, you will get the "0400 flashbang wakeup".
A Double-Double with ALL the trimmings for you when you next visit the Southland... ;-)
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