ENRON BACKSTORY THREAD II: Clinton-Gore, Ron Brown, Lippo, PLA

Pittsburgh Tribune-Review | Sunday Dec. 9, 2001 | DC-based British journalist and political observer

[Roebucks]

Thanks for the return volley. I deserved it. I do indeed understand that payoffs are a regular part of international commerce. But, where's the proof for the statement? I'll believe that when I see it.

[Norn Iron]

Where does Tommy Boggs fit in this scenario? Did he have links to Enron? He was a colleague of Ron Brown's. He was also supposed to have been involved in an automobile 'accident' in South Africa on the day that Brown perished in an aircraft 'accident' in Croatia.

MARC RICH and THE SECRET ACCOUNTS
1/28/01 by Sherman H. Skolnick

[Liz]

Sorry Liz, I just read thread one and didn't know that you wrote this when I posted my comments above. You can take me to the woodshed for calling the author a liar. Heavy rhetoric on my part. But, the India plant closing had nothing to do with corruption. I don't know much about the x42 cronyism stuff and I trust that you researched it well. Again, please accept my apology. It's not easy to write and get everything correct. I know that firsthand.

Well, it may not be easy, but you should not post anything here - and never make allegations
about someone's veracity - unless you are absolutely sure of what you are talking about.

[CommiesOut]

Enron's political consequences
Power politics
Enron probe won't restore pension funds

In doing so, Enron prevented a probable massive sell-off of its shares.

It is akin to what a economically stricken country might do to prevent to prevent a run on its banks.

[testforecho]

indexing

[Roebucks]

Actually, I was referring to your article with that comment. You made an assertion about something without providing any proof in your article. Show me the beef. Where is the corruption proof related to the plant closing? Now, with that in mind, re-read your last post to me.

[Liz]

I do indeed understand that payoffs are a regular part of international commerce.
But, where's the proof for the statement? I'll believe that when I see it.

Proof? Don't make me laugh!!! Look babe, these people are very clever at what they do....
They don't leave any evidence....not even a fingerprint on a crystal glass.....

[Roebucks]

Oh okay, assertions without knowing exactly what you're talking about are ok for you, but not me. Got ya.

[Migraine]

They don't leave any evidence....not even a fingerprint on a crystal glass.....

...or lipstick on a dipstick.

[Liz]

From your link - Political Consequences - Financial Times piece:

It was on Capitol Hill that Enron's efforts to stay outside the regulatory net met success, in legislation passed BEFORE (my emphasis) Mr Bush took office. There is much more for the public to learn about the Enron story.

[CommiesOut]

It was BEFORE ("who cares", "so what", "bridge to XXI).
And this is IN FRONT ("let's move on"):

It is akin to what a economically stricken country might do to prevent a run on its banks.

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Solzhenitsyn refers to remarks he says Pope John Paul ll made to him when they met: "He simply said that the third totalitarianism is coming. The absolute power of money, 'the inhuman love of the accumulation of capital for capital's sake'." More

[america-rules]

Like this ?

[TLBSHOW]

ron brown and enron 1998

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=20483

[TLBSHOW]

Furthermore, the EXIM bank under Brody financed over $4 billion dollars worth of gas deals with another energy company, Enron. Enron is also an Akim/Gump client. In fact, Enron executives traveled with Ron Brown in 1994 on trade missions to Russia, Indonesia and China, cutting EXIM and OPIC backed deals in each country. Enron is not only another Akin/Gump client but it is listed as one of forty-four such companies in which Rubin had "significant contact" with during his years at Goldman Sachs.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=20469

Ron Brown's Indonesia trip

[Isthatso]

and the beat goes on and on and on and on... thanks liz good post

[flamefront]

I hope you got your chance to add to this.

[Not now, Not ever!]

Bump, and to find it again

[rwfromkansas]

they still will blame it on Bush anyway and will have success in the media...thank goodness for FR though....we can spread the truth.

[flamefront]

Amazing, search
> enron clinton china

[Naspino]

Liberal Media Bias: FoxNews & CNN headline Afhgan Prison Movements. ABCNews, CBSNews, NBCNews headline "Enron Scandal" and vague references to Bush. No connection exists as found in last few lines of each article -- but according to NBC the possibility will undoubtedly lead to the downfall of Bush.