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Palestine, a Land virtually laid waste with little population
EretzYisroel.org -- excerpt from "From Time Immemorial" ^ | 1984 | Joan Peters

Posted on 01/09/2002 4:48:50 AM PST by Sabertooth

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To: anapikoros
The embarrassment was to the Palestinian propaganda machine which made a feeble and totally unconvincing attempt at discrediting it.

Exactly. Most of the vacuous "critiques" of her book were one-note jobs devoid of any detail, the kind of detail which spans over 560 pages including extensive endnotes and a robust bibliography. Finklestein took a pathetic stab at it which amounted to all of one chapter in a pathetic anti-zionist book he wrote which chapter had been discredited in a Commentary periodical. When he published his criticism which made up a chapter in his subsequent anti-zionist book none of the trenchant criticism of his take on Peters was answered by him. When you ask the imbeciles on this board who repeat this nonsense to come up with the goods they can't. There may be disagreements over some numbers and population distribution but in the final analysis her work stands as a testament against the Pan Arab Islamic propaganda.

121 posted on 01/09/2002 7:35:25 PM PST by Lent
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To: anapikoros
I should add as well that, in noting Finklestein, I'm indicating that it's not just Arab Islamics who have not vitiated the claims in her book. The anti-zionists like Finklestein, Pappe, Shahak, etc. are the most voiceferous of the lot in their criticism.
122 posted on 01/09/2002 7:40:31 PM PST by Lent
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To: wooly_mammoth
So doing some name dropping of some 20th century philosophers means you are not really some kinda numbnut who trolls free republic? Who posts anti Semitic trash? Looking to provoke people?
123 posted on 01/09/2002 11:27:13 PM PST by dennisw
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To: wooly_mammoth
Wonerful wonerful Lawrence Welk.
124 posted on 01/09/2002 11:36:06 PM PST by dennisw
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To: anapikoros, goblins
But the British did so in 1922 - today its called Jordan but it comprises 78% of historic Palestine and >90% of the population are "Palestinians".

In 1948 the UN divided what was left (UN Resolution 181) of Palestine between Arabs and Jews but the Arabs rejected it and went to war instead.

Yes the Jews were to get WEST Palestine where they had settled the most and the Arabs EAST Palestine. I believe that EAST Palestine would comprise today's West Bank and Jordan. Arabs went to war because the idea of Jews controlling any of Palestine, making a Jewish nation, made them go nuts.

125 posted on 01/09/2002 11:42:29 PM PST by dennisw
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To: Lent; Sabertooth; dennisw
Methinks you are suggesting that Palestinians/Arabs are like Liberal locust-- trashing the places they inhabit and then moving in to reclaim them when someone else cleans up the mess.

Is there any doubt that Israel would revert to this same condition if the Jews were driven out? Tell me one country in the Islam world which is ruled successfully without massive oil wealth? Sorry, Turkey and Malaysia don't count because they're secular Muslim countries aligned with the west which practice a moderate and rational brand of Islam.

126 posted on 01/10/2002 12:29:19 AM PST by Vigilanteman
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To: Lent,wooly_mammoth
There is no reason whatsoever that the genetic relationship between Jews and Arabs should be axed or hidden.

I have no problem with this either. Populations tend to mingle peacefully or via war meaning rape. Maybe this is subliminal human intelligence knowing that it's best not to inbreed! This paper got pulled due to politicized anti Israel language. But wooly_bully and others think it's due to conspiracy by Jews. After all, the clever Jews control the sciences. Just look at all the Jewish Noble Prize winners.

Go figure!

127 posted on 01/10/2002 12:48:13 AM PST by dennisw
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To: Vigilanteman
Yes, yes, yes and yes. The default value is Muslim nation equals retrograde impoverished nation. If there is oil wealth, then this helps elevate the standard of living. In the case of Saudi Arabia it did not change the primitive Wahhabist mentality and other primitivism.
128 posted on 01/10/2002 12:52:29 AM PST by dennisw
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To: Vigilanteman
Methinks you are suggesting that Palestinians/Arabs are like Liberal locust-- trashing the places they inhabit and then moving in to reclaim them when someone else cleans up the mess.

That, in effect, was the end result of the endless Jihads against the fixed Christian (non-Arab) and Jewish population in Palestine. Colonization by nomadic Arab tribes and the stripping of the land. By the 17th century under the Ottomans it had turned into a waisteland - a forgotten and neglected province of the Turks.

131 posted on 01/10/2002 6:07:41 AM PST by Lent
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To: AdamWeisshaupt
Were the Jews a majority of minority in Palestine before the Second World War? If they were not a majority, how were they justified in creating the state of Israel?

The Jews were the majority before they were colonized out during the Jihads initiated post-Mohammed. Since then, Arabs, Syrians, Egyptians, Moroccans, Bosnians, and a whole host of peoples went in and out of that land. The Arabs got a slice of what was to be the National Home of the Jews encompassing Western Palestine and present day Jordan. This 2/3 was sliced up by the British and given to the Arabs in 1922. The Jews were not allowed to live in what was then called the Transjordan while Arabs were allowed to settle in both Transjordan and Western Palestine. Just as the Ottomans used colonization to Palestine, i.e., the Muslims from the breakup of their empire (Bosnia, Kosovo, etc.), so did European Jews take advantage of the National Home initiated by the British and their victory over the Ottomans to reenter the land of their forefathers, the same land their forebearers had been cleansed out of by the last great diaspora of Jews initiated under the Islamic caliphs.

The Arab Islamics have nothing to complain about. Resolution 181 was initiated and passed based on population distribution and the Arabs rejected it. They've been whining phony crocodile tears ever since. And there are plenty of suckers to buy their fraudulent bill of goods.

132 posted on 01/10/2002 6:23:54 AM PST by Lent
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To: AdamWeisshaupt
Just as the Serbs were originally the majority in Kosovo, and the Boers settled an empty land after the great trek. Have you ever stood up for them?

Check my profile links regarding the Serbs and by inference you'll know what I think of South Africa.

134 posted on 01/11/2002 6:06:22 AM PST by Lent
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To: dennisw
Fascinating Picture, BUMP
135 posted on 01/13/2002 1:11:43 AM PST by College Repub
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To: College Repub
It's a great picture. It's part of a website that I copied from in an earlier post to that thread.
136 posted on 01/13/2002 5:05:10 AM PST by dennisw
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To: Sabertooth

Mad Mo had to create a new religion. The olds ones told him being sloth was a deadly sin, that and raping little boys.


137 posted on 03/26/2010 4:10:26 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: dennisw

The Wailing Wall which is where Muslims now claim Mohamed tied is flying horse to is where they had rows of out houses backed up to so they could hsit on it. Even today they have a bus station and a parking lot next to the the garden tomb and what is possibly Golgotha with a Muslim burial ground above to keep people away. They definitely laugh and think how foolish are the Christians for allowing a place that should be honored to be treated the way it is.


138 posted on 06/06/2016 11:46:11 AM PDT by Sheapdog (Chew the meat, spit out the bones - FUBO - Come and get me)
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