REMARKS BY THE PRESIDENT IN TOWN HALL MEETING WITH CITIZENS OF ONTARIO

The White House Site ^ | Jan. 5, 2002

[HighWheeler]

If you can let me know how to reach that nitwit reporter, I'll call her.

Hey Doug, what makes you think any AP reporter or reporterette would be interested in facts? Especially any facts from the actual source?

[doug from upland]

Mr. KABC actually used to have me on a segment called THE CONSPIRACY CORNER when he was on with Brian Whitman. Lately, Mr. KABC and I have been dueling via e-mail. He recently referred to FR as being a bunch of whackjobs and that is where Doug from Upland hangs out. I responded and we have been going at it.

[dalereed]

One thing I take exception to was his not allowing oil drilling off the Califonia coast.

The oil on California beaches (tar balls) came from natural sepage. The drilling done from the platforms in the Santa Barbara Channel, Long Beach harbor, and Seal Beach reduced the gas pressure and drasticly cut the hugh daily flow of oil into the ocean.

Before there was any drilling or shipping (in the 1940s) the first stop returning from the beach when I visited my grandparents in Del Mar was the tin wash tub outside where I got a scrub down with a scrub brush and kerosene to remove all the tar.

Before the drilling in Long Beach and Seal Beach, There was thousands of barrels of oil a day boiling up on the Horseshoe Kelp (7 miles off Los Angeles harbor), some balls as big as basketballs that made an oil slick all the way to Mexico and tarred all the beaches on the way.

Golita, north of Santa Barbara, was so covered with tar that you couldn't use the beach (the Spanish used to beach there ships there to tar the bottoms) and since the drilling in the channel has reduced the natural flow, the beaches are clean and usable.

The only reason not to drill for oil off our coast is for the environmentalist to use it as an excuse to squeze us into an immobile and totally controled society, long one of the tennants of the communists.

Cheap abundants energy creates a mobile and affluent society which is at cross purposes of our government and the left.

[doug from upland]

I've read some of the figures recently and the amount of increased energy we are going to need is unbelievable. As third world countries get off mules and horses, they will be using huge amounts of energy. The world better find it.

[Ben Bolt]

In my experience with this person , he would answer yes to all of you'r question's , with the possible exception of # 3 and # 1 .

[HighWheeler]

Yeah, I don't expect him to answer. He may smell the setup and not even want to walk near it. But I have found that these kinds of questions spark some thought in liberals and cause them to at least question their positions on economics.

About 3 years ago, AT&T was laying off 10,000 to 30,000 employees. The liberals were, of course, outraged at the unfairness. Yet a poll showed that under 3% (statistical zero) of the population would be willing to pay $10/month added to their phone bill to save those jobs.

About 2 months ago, Arkansas Republican governor Huckabee slammed the liberals in the state congress who wanted to raise taxes. He told them that rather than raising taxes on everyone, that anyone could voluntarily pay into the state. He gave them the address to send the money. About 2 weeks ago, I heard that less than $300 bucks had been sent in.

Liberals are experts at knowing where to spend everyone else's money.

[Mortimer Snavely]

Here are some yes/no questions for you:

1) Should American organizations or individuals be allowed to benefit themselves by assisting foreign organizations or individuals devoted to the destruction of the USA?

In other words,

2) Should American individuals or organizations be allowed to make money strengthening the political, economic, and technological assets of foreign organizations or individuals whose idea of a good time is staying awake late at night figuring out ways to destroy us?

3) Is it really a good idea to sell gasoline and matches to a homicidal-suicidal pyromaniac who has repeatedly told everyone how he has wet dreams about burning you to death?

[HighWheeler]

Before you go off on the orders of magnitude more complex international economic range of possibilities, why don't you answer my far easier domestic questions. Give it a try. Go on. Do it.

[Mortimer Snavely]

Your questions are posited in a vacuum, ignoring the reality of the situation today. I'd agree with you on free trade within the free world, or what passes for the free world, but places like Japan, Red China, Taiwan, Malaysia, Singapore, and Korea play for power, and not for money. They practice doctrinaire National Socialism, and have abandoned military competiton for technological and economic competition as their chosen means of global domination. The banking systems are copies of the Reichsbank Act of 1942, for example. To countries like these, open US markets are a means to a political end, and are prohibited in their own countries. Free choice as practiced elsewhere is the precise thing they want to prevent from happening in their own countries.

[HighWheeler]

My questions get to the heart of freedom vs. fascism/socialism in the economy, to the exclusion of product, international politics, and international economics.

They are quite simple, and have nothing at all to do with "the situation today". They are applicable today, 226 years ago, and will be applicable in 226 more years. Question 3 and 6 also detect some level of economic knowledge of the answerer.

Since you won't answer my questions, I'll take up the slack here and answer yours, even though yours are laughibly complex for a Yes-or-No response. A person could write a whole book on any one of those questions to cover the myriad situations and the resulting dynamics.

Trade with our enemies? Generally yes. However only of course for product not restricted by US law, such as illicit drugs, and secret technology. The idea is that we are proportionately less likely to be attacked, and likely to create collaboration with any country with which we do business. They in effect would kill the golden goose by harming us. But if they have nothing to lose by attacking us, well then.....

The US is the economic superpower of the world because of our freedom. The more government intervention, the less freedom we have. The less freedom we have the less power we have. The other countries of the world continue to bear that out.

[RLK]

I did find out that they pay $1200/year per employee in China, which is good because it keeps down the price of my next computer.

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You are nothing but a half-ass Marxist willing to support communism/socialism when yiou thing it will get you something for free, or cheap, made by slave labor.

[RLK]

Get a GRIP and go fly a Kite, you don't belong on this SITE with your Left-O-Pinky Comments, you need to go back to the Left and make your comments HEARD INSTEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Motorola is on record as moving its advanced research facilities to communist china, you are giving me static about opposing it, and you have the guts to call ME the commie pinko?

[HighWheeler]

Afraid to answer my 9 questions? heheheh

I have a few more after these.

[RLK]

You are attempting to reframe the issue. What I maintain is the issue is that you, and people like you, ar Marxist slave masters with the slave quarters moved thousands of miles away whe the truth can be obsured with ideological abstractions. As long as slave labor will get you a temporary high from getting something cheap, you'll endorse it even it it destroys the American economy over the long term. You attempt to lie your way out of it with lists of questions or whatever you can come up with.

[HighWheeler]

Still afraid to answer the questions, I see. And resorting to namecalling to boot. Do liberals have any backbone?

Read the questions again. They are so simple, and yet so important. Take the test, c'mon!

[RLK]

You're still attempting to avoid the fundamental truth by posting lists of abstract avoidant irrelevant goofball questions, eh? You really like life on the plantation getting goodies from slaves for free.

[HighWheeler]

To RLK -

Hey chicken,

Just how are you reading this message? On a computer made with scads of Chinese parts and tools. What do you drive? A car with Chinese parts. What do you fly in? A plane with Chinese parts. Hospitals are loaded with Chinese made equipment and supplies. Shoes, TVs, smoke detectors, and a zillion other parts are made in China,

AND YOU, RLK, OWN THEM AND PAID MONEY TO THE CHINESE.

Therefore, according to your own simplton logic "You are nothing but a half-ass (sic) Marxist willing to support communism/socialism when yiou (sic) thing (sic) it will get you something for free, or cheap, made by slave labor."

How about that? You are your own pinko!

You have a big task ahead of you, RLK. You need to get all those Chinese parts completely out of your life, you know, to keep your Aryan Nation-Like purity of purchased products in tact.

Now go answer my questions, RLK. IF that is your real name. You might learn something.

[RLK]

The answer to your questions is simple. You are just another loud-mouth bum wanting something for free, or sheap, and are willing to support slave labor to get it. The reast is smokescreen.

[HighWheeler]

You don't even have the guts to answer a few yes-or-no questions. Even grade school kids aren't that fearful of questions.

A Big Mouth backed only with utter Cowardice makes for an ugly personality, doesn't, RLK? Did you notice that you even verified someone else's earlier prediction that you wouldn't respond to my questions?

Your hero Clinton has the same kind of big mouth backed by cowardice, and look at the massive destruction it caused to this country. I hope you don't get any important positions in life with that combination of yours.

[Slipjack]

If Motorola wants to MOVE to CHICOM LAND, so be it just don't buy their JUNK, as many others of us are doing on 99% of their products that are now made there; along with anything and everything else that Red China may have made for integration into other Products that are made elsewhere that is known to have their JUNK in it.......

BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT then BOYCOTT again…..