BUCHANAN DECLARES: DEATH OF THE WEST

Drudge Report ^ | 01/02/2002 | Matt Drudge

[garbanzo]

Here's the thing - no one has actually specified what these mysterious poisonous "third world values" are. It isn't religion. And almost all of the major immigrant groups here didn't speak English initially. Mexicans speak Spanish - a European language. Most come here and work and build stuff and write code and treat people who are sick and run shops and businesses.

Ok many of them prefer soccer to football but it is a free country and you're free not to watch sports at all here. So exactly what are the "third-world values" to which you refer?

[WRhine]

The truth may hurt but you are 100% on mark. Great post.

[garbanzo]

The Middle Ages.

[junta]

It will probably be deleted, but if you are not frightened and cowering in some corner muttering the words "thought crime" would you please refute that claim of his.

[Jack Barbara]

We're four plus years into your transformation. How much progress have we made toward becoming your map so far?

[WRhine]

I don't know what the administrators will do, but I want it recorded here that I pressed the abuse button on #901.

Nothing like censorship to squash points of views you may not like.

[Petronski]

I am not going to debate with you a correlation between cultural or economic advance and skin color. It's obscene.

[Old Fud]

Only those with heads buried deep refuse to see.

We seem to inundated with them in this "grassroots" forum.

[Petronski]

Save it for the sheet party.

[junta]

The man was a bit crude yet where is he wrong? The best answer is by garbanzo with the "middle ages", but even that era showed more civilizational tendencies than some parts of the world do today. Why is the West succesful? The rest of the world does not even ask that at best immigrants just come to take part of our success, but in doing so only grasp it as some sort of magic or to reclaim something they claim was stolen from them in some long forgotten past era.

[Petronski]

Nothing like censorship to squash points of views you may not like.

The entire thread is a sewer. I merely want management to be aware of the biggest chunks. They can do what they please, and you are free to wallow in your own slop as long as they let you.

[Joe Hadenuf]

I don't know what the administrators will do, but I want it recorded here that I pressed the abuse button on #901.

They didn't seem to respond. Keep hitting the panic button a few more times :]

[Petronski]

Who put you up to this, garbanzo? I notice that garbanzo came back after a hiatus at approximately the same time as you did. ... I smell a conspiracy against F.B.Forrest.

LOL, don't be so gloomy. Big smiles! Big smiles!

[junta]

What is obscene is not recognizing the fact that my anscestors did a damn good job while the rest of the world lounged about in superstitious depravity for the most part. By the way those anscestors are all fair skinned which in itself means little, but it does show that a group of people became a loose community and chose to advance in certain areas whereas others did not do so.

[garbanzo]

The West is successful because it developed the right set of ideas - if it were genetics then why did it take until ~400 to 500 years ago (out of roughly 400,000 years Homo sapiens sapiens has been around) for Europe to take off? Some massive genetic switch happening around 1500AD?

One of those key ideas was openness to other cultures and civilizations. The West didn't take the NIH (not invented here) attitude some places took and thrived. But the Renaissance eats it own children - as intolerance creeps back into the Western mind.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Hit that panic button again, and start burning the books.

[WRhine]

Save it for the sheet party.

I have never been a member of any hate organization so you can put your race card back in your pocket. I just happen to have a respect for the truth that comes from looking at things as they are and drawing judgements. If the truth isn't politically popular...tough.

[Blade]

While the implications of the correlation are debatable, the correlation exists whether you choose to acknowledge it or not.

[garbanzo]

As I said before - I'm an extraterrestrial attempting to take over the planet...resistance is futile. All the conspiracies are true...