Posted on 12/29/2001 12:08:08 AM PST by H.R. Gross
You're being to kind. In a different time and place these types would be proudly wearing Swastikas or white hooded robes.
I know, you don't hate all Jews, just everything they believe.
All Jews do not think alike, no matter how hard you pretend to believe such. All Jews are not zionists.
It is possible to "hate" and idea. It is also possible to oppose an idea or simply disagree with an idea. When did the poster express "hatred" for what some Jews believe?
Your logic is twisted. I would think with such a large group of interested parties, you could come up with some rebuttle beyond what I've seen.
There is that vibrant imagination again.
1. The assertion that Europe is awash in antisemitism is hyperbole, and it is silly to extrapolite from an incident or two. Yes I agree with that completely.
2. The Israel lobby is the most powerful. These things vary over time. It certainly isn't the case now. 90 billion is a lot, but much of that has to do with forces other than the Israel lobby. At one time unions were the most powerful. The NRA has been the most powerful at times. These days the teachers' unions, the trial lawyers, and the telecommunications firms are all more suitable candidates for wielding the biggest stick in town. You just tossed that one out anyway. I know you really didn't intend anyone to take it seriously.
3. Without Irgun and the Stern gang Israel wouldn't exist.
Who knows, but I suspect that you are right.
4. Israel is a shitty little socialist economic basketcase. This statement is ludicrous. Never has Israel's private sector been more dynamic and prosperous, and not just in the arms industry. It's standard of living per capita has shot up nicely. 3 billion a year from the US is mere rounding error in comparison. Do you know what socialism means by the way?
5. Israel is religiously fanactic. This is equally ludicrous. A substantial majority of Israelis are not particularly religious at all, and its foreign policy is not animated by religious fanaticism.
6. The Amen corner is bullying everyone to toe the party line in the US. . Evidence: some shitty little rag in Oneida got pistol whipped. LOL. Surely you can do better that this Justin.
7. Amiel thinks that the Arab/Muslim world needs to be bitch slapped from time to time, and isn't that terrible?
No, Amiel has it exactly right. That is all those folks seem to really respect, to whit, "stongmen" who act strong.
8. but we are expected to just accept that virtually all criticism of Israel and Ariel Sharon is due to "anti-Semitism
By whom? The cast of bit players you allude to? Total BS. Few believe that, and you know it. Sharon is a war criminal, or was in Lebanon, or close to it. Most of the settlements have to go. Arafat should have been allowed to go to Bethlehem. I have posted all these things. No one has suggested that I am anti-semitic. What might you be missing here Justin?
9. Isn't it the Israelis who are openly wielding a nuclear stick, threatening the whole region with annihilation if anyone dares stand in Sharon's way
Find one piece of evidence that Israel has ever done that. Israel will use nukes only if their back is against the wall, and they face being driven into the sea. Any other use would represent the beginning of the end for them, and they know it. Such a use would not be tolerated, and the retaliation would be swift by the West.
So let's see, 1 is right, 2 is half right or half wrong, 3 we will call right just because we are kind and gentle folk, 4-9 are all wrong. So call it 2.5 for 9. That is a 277 average. Not too bad for baseball, but not great.
Families - even wildly dysfunctional ones - have to work things out themselves.
Why in the world does a non-family member like me take sides in a family fight because the cunning little brother tells me his big brother is bragging that he can whip me?
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