We’re With You, GW, Really!

lewrockwell.com ^ | December 24, 2001 | Brad Edmonds

[RnMomof7]

I'm sorry if the truth is scary. Should we cover it up because we are scared?

Yeah your "truth" is scary, because using your "truth", you would lose a war, but of course you have your "truth" to make you feel good in the end, even though you totally ignored the strategic realities(the real truth) around you.

The truth is we could win THIS battle and lose the war.Because the president's decision to mainstream Islam and not stop issuing visas to the moon god folks, we could win the military battle and lose the religious and cultural war. In a few generations we could be a muslim nation.

It is already not PC to name Christ in public ,or acknowlege you believe in Him. We are moving slowly but surely away from the Judo/Christian European roots of this nation. "Islam means Peace" and "allah is forgiving" does not help to stem that tide..

[exmarine]

Hasn't disinformation been used since the dawn of America if it was in the national interest?

That doesn't make it right...especially coming from Bush who is supposed to be a Christian, therefore a lover of the Truth. Yet, he seems to put Islam on the same pedestal with Jesus Christ. Not only is it a lie, it's blasphemy.

However, his position is fully in line with the "diversity" people - that is, all truth claims and beliefs must be equally valid. Not only is it a lie, it's a lie that militates against the laws of logic.

[NittanyLion]

That doesn't make it right...especially coming from Bush who is supposed to be a Christian

So in your opinion, the US should have told Germany of an impending invasion on D-Day?

[Dane]

I am not going to get into an arguement with you, since you have proven yourself to many on FR(with your now famous, but pulled, thread bashing Bush) that you are the Christian version of the taliban.

[exmarine]

So in your opinion, the US should have told Germany of an impending invasion on D-Day?

This is a false comparison. We were at war with Germany and were trying to obtain the element of surprise in the fight against EVIL. In this case, the American people are being lied to about the true nature of our enemy (Islam) and we are allying or trying to ally ourselves with our enemies (Syria, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Pakistan, etc.).

[Dittohead_2]

Not a lot ... except whenever the topic of 'truth' pops up, well, after 8 years of listening to Bill & Hillary expound their version of it and The BIAS media eating it up as if it really were factually accurate, I have come to realize why the Liberals on the left seem to accept the fact that Conservatives are incapable of telling the truth. Now that I have come to the realization that Liberals look upon the TRUTH like they look at the Constitution ... something that can be changed to suit their needs ...... I beg your forgiveness for dragging Bill and Hillary into an otherwise inciteful debate.

[exmarine]

...the Christian version of the taliban.

I see, so anyone who disagrees with Bush's propaganda campaign is a taliban? You sound like an anti-christian bigot. Well then, maybe Bush should round up all the American Christians and put them in jail for DISAGREEING with his lies? Believe me, there are many Americans who see through this propaganda about Islam.

[RnMomof7]

I am not going to get into an arguement with you, since you have proven yourself to many on FR(with your now famous, but pulled, thread bashing Bush) that you are the Christian version of the taliban.

No actually those of you that wish to silence debate of government actions or stiffle religious debate are the Taliban. Censorship is not necessary when you have the truth!

[NittanyLion]

We were at war with Germany and were trying to obtain the element of surprise in the fight against EVIL.

And we are presently at war and are trying to obtain an advantage by systematically attacking terrorists. In order to do so, we must (at a minimum) keep the rest of the Muslim world placated, so that we can direct the full brunt of our effort toward the battle. IMHO, lying in order to do so is the proper course of action.

[RnMomof7]

Bump to #48

[68 grunt]

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[exmarine]

I would agree except that Bush is not telling the truth (he may believe what he says in which case it is an untruth rather than a lie) to the American people. Don't you think people mistrust the government enough without more lies and propaganda? One lie leads to more lies.

[RnMomof7]

IMHO, lying in order to do so is the proper course of action.

So who decides when a lie is "good" and "necessary" Who is the final arbitor of truth?.

[Dane]

I see, so anyone who disagrees with Bush's propaganda campaign is a taliban? You sound like an anti-christian bigot.

Huh? I am just making an opinion. I am a Christian(Catholic), but I am just making a judgement about RnMomof7's views and I do think she is intolerant of anybody who doesn't follow her brand of Christianity. Kind of like a now defunct government in Afghanistan, except the religion was Islam.

[NittanyLion]

So who decides when a lie is "good" and "necessary" Who is the final arbitor of truth?

God, I suppose.

[Salgak]

Why ? Diplomacy, that's why. Just remember the definition of Diplomacy: Saying "nice doggie" while you look for a rock (g)

[Salgak]

Exactly. One Target at a time. Slow, steady, and methodical will get the job done right the FIRST time. . .as opposed to x42, who'd blow off several tens of millions of dollars of ordnance to little or no effect. . .

[Jefferson Adams]

No actually those of you that wish to silence debate of government actions or stiffle religious debate are the Taliban. Censorship is not necessary when you have the truth!

Well said. Goes for you, too, exmarine :)

[exmarine]

Who are you to judge the president? Mr. almighty sage.

The bible gives me the authority:

But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. (2 Cor 2:15)

and...

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Jn 14:6

The question should be: What authority does Bush use to put Islam on equal footing with Jesus Christ?