Posted on 12/21/2001 6:52:48 PM PST by LSUsoph
Agreed, and what the pro-life people want is to protect the security of a major part of our nation, our unborn children (and the elderly and infirm, whom the pro-death crowd are preparing to exterminate). The greatest freedom is the freedom from aggression, and we wish to protect the weak from the aggressors. If the country can't protect millions of citizens from being murdered, what good is it.
Besides, since when does being a lightweight mean anything?
The problem was that they listened to folks like you, and thought that the party was not strongly pro-life. He could have improved his numbers if he had made someone like Alan Keyes his spokesman, on this one issue, where those who say Mr. Keyes does not have a wide enough range of issues admit that he shines.
By the way, the fact that you are a Catholic means nothing. In the concentration camps the Kapos and sonderkommandaten were Jewish, but that did not stop them from advancing the plan of their Dark Lord, as you advance the plan of your Dark Lord.
You conveniently left out the Senate confirmation process.
Party is voters aren't! Look at two of the parties stars, olympia snowe and susie collins, neither has ever seen a pro homosexual bill they could vote against or a pro-baby in the womb bill they could vote for.
The problem with these people is that they ran the party for nearly 100 years, ending in 1964. They still run places like New Jersey and New England, and have great influence in New York and Pennsylvania, but the 'old money', 'country-club' republicans will never again control the national GOP (naturally they can influence it, but that is not enough for them).
I keep providing you statistical evidence that this unsupported assertion is simply wrong, and you keep ignoring it.
"Simply put, that translates into a Bush advantage on the abortion issue of 2.5 million votes in an election that Gore won nationally by more than 540,000 votes."
According to the exit polls taken by a pro-abortion news agency, Bush gained 2.5 million more votes than he lost, BECAUSE he was pro-life. The fact that he lost to Gore among women does not change this fact. The exit polls demonstrate he would have lost by even more if he had not been pro-life.
That said, I could care less about polls. I only bring them up because others made the incorrect argument that the pro-life position was a loser politically. No one has come forward with any evidence to support that contention.
But even if it was a loser, we can't walk away from 1.5 million abortions a year. We need to educate, motivate, and activate more pro-life voters.
I am in better health than Cheney. I've got diabetes, peripheral neuropathy, hypertension, and had a double coronary bypass in 1999. Never a heart attack, though. And I would not consider myself well enough to be V.P.
The job of the V.P. requires someone in good health, not a basket case like Cheney. He should have resigned and allowed a younger healthy man to take his post.
--Boris
I know that they are trotted out for RINO types, but they have only the same kind of influence that Jeffords used to have. The two of them are one half of the RINO caucus, and will never gain national power.
Agreed, and we must 'fight the good fight' so long as our strength shall last.
Again, you folks are tying the fate of the pro-life cause to the fate of the Republican party -- a largely white, protestant, anti-environment, anti-union organization. Abortion is legal, and they that's gonna be changed forever is when we stop tying the pro-life cause to politics, and start changing hearts.
Change hearts, and legislation will follow. Changing legislation without changing hearts will not produce lasting results for the cause.
Do we want lasting results and changed hearts, or do we simply want a political issue to beat people over the head with?
If he had done this, Daschle would not yet have scheduled confirmation hearings on a successor. The Vice Presidency would be vacant, and Robert Byrd would be two heartbeats away from the Presidency.
When will pro-life people get it in their heads? Abortion will not be solved with politics! It will be solved when people's hearts are changed! Without a sympathietic public, abortion law will stay as it is regardless of who is in the White House.
Bush is pro-life and has been in the White House just under a year. Has he really done much for the pro-life cause? Not really. He can't.
When the pro-abortion Los Angelas Times conducted an exit poll at the last election and looked into how abortion affected people's voting, it found:
"Simply put, that translates into a Bush advantage on the abortion issue of 2.5 million votes in an election that Gore won nationally by more than 540,000 votes."
Please clarify yourself. I'm 100% pro-life. However, I'm also a realist to know that abortion law won't be changed without the necessary public opinion in our favour. Too many pro-lifers restrict their pro-life cause to the fate of Republican candidates -- which leads me to believe that many fellow pro-lifers really aren't concerned about solving the abortion problem, but merely want an issue to beat the GOP over the head with.
57 percent of those surveyed agreed that "abortion is murder," while 36 percent disagreed. Among women (abortion, we are regularly told, is a woman's issue from which men would do well to butt out), 61 percent judged abortion to be murder.
To give up the political battle, while all this is going on, would be stupid. The government would simply give more money and power to the pro-aborts.
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