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**Bush invokes executive privilege to keep Justice Department documents secret**
AP ^ | 12-13-01 | John Solomon

Posted on 12/13/2001 6:02:13 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:39:12 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: horsewhispersc
Oh, dear - your spelling, grammar and analytical abilities are appalling. The only reason I would be nervous is knowing that people are permitted to vote and make decisions without any facts whatsoever. That makes me very nervous. You have not stated one fact on this forum but are ready to jump down anyone's throat who defends President Bush. The man has handled himself with dignity and grace and courage and you just don't seem to like it that those characteristics have earned him the respect of nearly everyone in the free world.
181 posted on 12/13/2001 9:23:59 AM PST by Peach
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To: rdavis84
Don't sweat it. As long as our Emporor is praised for the GOD he is, then it doesn't matter how big or small the words are.

I thank Bush everyday for my blessings and these losers just don't get it. If they don't stop it they could get a knock on the door from the Gest...errr Homeland Defense boys.

This criticism must stop. In fact I've been talking to some people about this place. The word is getting out. With the new FBI snooping, it won't be hard to track down and arrest these blasphemers. I'm collecting my own little database because I'm patriotic and want to help out as much as I can.

182 posted on 12/13/2001 9:26:09 AM PST by Demidog
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To: mrsmith
We have evidence of criminal wrong doing. Heck we have Gore on video breaking the law at the Buddhist temple. We have the evidence in the Boston case too. We know the FBI helped frame the men. What we don't know is why nobody was prosecuted. We need to find out and bring some people to justice.
183 posted on 12/13/2001 9:27:52 AM PST by SUSSA
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To: Peach
Ooooh so sorry I upset you with my tongue in cheek remark!
184 posted on 12/13/2001 9:29:41 AM PST by horsewhispersc
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To: Howlin
Thursday December 13 12:04 PM ET

Bush Invokes Executive Privilege

By JOHN SOLOMON, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush (news - web sites) invoked executive privilege for the first time Thursday to keep Congress from seeing documents of prosecutors' decision-making in cases ranging from a decades-old Boston murder to the Clinton-era fund-raising probe.

``I believe congressional access to these documents would be contrary to the national interest,'' Bush wrote in a memo ordering Attorney General John Ashcroft (news - web sites) to withhold the documents from a House investigative committee that subpoenaed them.

The decision institutes a dramatic change in the way the administration intends to deal with Congress after years in which the Justice Department (news - web sites), sometimes reluctantly, shared sensitive investigative documents with lawmakers.

Republicans and Democrats alike excoriated the decision, suggesting Bush was creating a ``monarchy'' or ``imperial'' presidency to keep Congress for overseeing the executive branch and guarding against corruption.

The Republican House committee chairman who sought the documents raised the possibility of taking Bush to court for contempt of Congress.

``Everyone is in agreement you guys are making a big mistake,'' Rep. Dan Burton (news - bio - voting record), R-Ind., told Justice lawyers at a hearing after the announcement. ``We might be able to go to the (House) floor and take this thing to court.''

The full House, controlled by Republicans, would have to vote to find Bush in contempt to start such a court battle.

In his memo to Ashcroft, the president explained his decision.

``Disclosure to Congress of confidential advice to the attorney general regarding the appointment of a special counsel and confidential recommendations to Department of Justice (news - web sites) officials regarding whether to bring criminal charges would inhibit the candor necessary to the effectiveness of the deliberative process by which the department makes prosecutorial decisions,'' Bush wrote.

He added, ``It is my decision that you should not release these documents or otherwise make them available to the committee. ... I have decided to assert executive privilege.''

Burton decried the decision. ``This is not a monarchy,'' he said. ``The legislative branch has oversight responsibility to make sure there is no corruption in the executive branch.''

Rep. Henry Waxman (news - bio - voting record), the top Democrat on the committee, who frequently sparred with Burton during Clinton era investigations, agreed with his sometimes nemesis.

``An imperial presidency or an imperial justice department conflicts with the democratic principles of our nation,'' Waxman said.

The decision immediately affects a subpoena from Burton's House Government Reform Committee for documents related to the FBI handling of mob informants in Boston dating to the 1960s.

More importantly, it sets a new policy in the works for months in which the administration will resist lawmakers' requests to view prosecutorial decision-making documents that have been routinely turned over to Congress in years past.

Executive privilege is a doctrine recognized by the courts that ensures presidents can get candid advice in private without fear of its becoming public.

The privilege, however, is best known for the unsuccessful attempts by former Presidents Nixon and Clinton to keep evidence secret during impeachment investigations.

White House counsel Alberto Gonzales recommended Bush invoke the privilege earlier this fall.

While invoking the privilege, Bush instructed Ashcroft to have the Justice Department ``remain willing to work informally with the committee to provide such information as it can, consistent with these instructions and without violating the constitutional doctrine of separation of powers.''

Burton's committee for months has been seeking Justice Department memos about prosecutors' decisions in cases involving the handling of mob informants in Boston, Democratic fund raising, a former Clinton White House official and a former federal drug enforcement agent.

The committee subpoenaed Ashcroft, demanding those documents in the fall and scheduled a hearing Thursday to examine the Boston case.

That case stems from revelations that Joseph Salvati of Boston spent 30 years in prison for a murder he did not commit even though the FBI had evidence of his innocence. Salvati was freed in January after a judge concluded that FBI agents hid testimony that would have cleared Salvati because they wanted to protect an informant.

Several such memos were shared with Congress during both Republican and Democratic administrations. Most recently, in the 1990s, such documents were turned over to the Whitewater, fund-raising, pardons and impeachment investigations by lawmakers.

But the concept of extending executive privilege to Justice Department decisions isn't new. During the Reagan years, the privilege was cited as the reason the department did not tell Congress about some memos in a high-profile environmental case.

And Clinton's attorney general, Janet Reno (news - web sites), advised Clinton in 1999 that he could invoke the privilege to keep from disclosing documents detailing department views on 16 pardon cases.


185 posted on 12/13/2001 9:31:31 AM PST by deport
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The United States House of Representatives is ordering US Attorney General Ashcroft to hand over all the criminal evidence from Clinton and Janet Reno Administration related criminal investigations..... That's all I want them to be concerned about right now.

Let Bush do the Terrorists, and let the House learn more about the Clinton Administration. Let the house alert us, the voting public.

186 posted on 12/13/2001 9:32:09 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: Demidog
"I'm collecting my own little database because I'm patriotic and want to help out as much as I can."

Same Here! The ones you miss, I'll pick up. Let's fink to the Gest.... Homeland boys soon. Some of these people picking apart our Maximum Leader are really tickin' me off!

I'm hoping to get an Armband to wear out of the deal, maybe an extra ration of Martial Music CD's. How 'bout you?

187 posted on 12/13/2001 9:32:41 AM PST by rdavis84
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To: SUSSA
"JUSTICE"

Isn't that a word Bush looked up in the Dictionary, afteraaall he sure uses it alot! ;-)

188 posted on 12/13/2001 9:33:42 AM PST by horsewhispersc
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To: SUSSA
"where high ranking officials committed crimes (Clinton/Gore fund-raising), and where low level officials framed innocent people and jailed them for decades. "

Here, we would agree that there is a compelling public interest.
However, I am under the impression that the information is requested in order to determine if this assertion is true.
If the President doesn't see support for that assertion in the documents (note: this is just the opposite consideration than that made by others here) he must refuse them.

Congress can and should go to court if it is confident in these charges.

189 posted on 12/13/2001 9:34:54 AM PST by mrsmith
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To: Peach
The man has handled himself with dignity and grace and courage

The man has done a great job of delivering the speeches his writers give him.As for the respect of the world, read a few foreign newspapers and see if your opinion still holds up.

190 posted on 12/13/2001 9:35:18 AM PST by AUgrad
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To: LuvItOrLeaveIt
"Please, somebody tell me I didn't vote for a Clinton in Republican clothing!"

Nope. Sorry. If it comes to be that the next election is between jr. and Hillary you'll vote for him again. "Lesser of Two Evils" dontchaknow.

191 posted on 12/13/2001 9:36:56 AM PST by rdavis84
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To: mancini
The boy is takin' a real whuppin' here. Got any of those "Sweatin With the Shovel" Photos to get this back on track?
192 posted on 12/13/2001 9:39:01 AM PST by rdavis84
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To: deport
We'll see what the court says about this one, too. Maybe they can do this one and Mary Frances Berry at the same time!
193 posted on 12/13/2001 9:39:47 AM PST by Howlin
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To: deport
"This is not a monarchy"

and I know Bush loves to be the "Dictator" but it ain't a Dictatorship either!

194 posted on 12/13/2001 9:40:15 AM PST by horsewhispersc
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To: AUgrad
As for the respect of the world, read a few foreign newspapers and see if your opinion still holds up.

I have. It does.

195 posted on 12/13/2001 9:40:40 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Wil H
"The Bushes and the clintons have mutually assured destruction of each other in their past dealings, you won't see any justice here..."

Let's see, according to your theory the Klintoons had info that would have put Bush out of the picture BEFORE W was in office and did not use it. Bbbrrrrrrrrrnnntttt! Try again. No way BJ not have used something while he had the chance.

196 posted on 12/13/2001 9:42:24 AM PST by Lee'sGhost
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To: LuvItOrLeaveIt
Yup, ya did. lol
197 posted on 12/13/2001 9:43:31 AM PST by horsewhispersc
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To: horsewhispersc
"JUSTICE"

Isn't that a word Bush looked up in the Dictionary, afteraaall he sure uses it alot! ;-)"

No. He got confused. The dictionary was too big a book so Dick said "Hey, all that counts is "Just Us" when jr. asked for a definition.

Kinda goes along with "Bush is a Jenius" on his BumperSticker.

198 posted on 12/13/2001 9:44:19 AM PST by rdavis84
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To: Peach
``An imperial presidency or an imperial justice department conflicts with the democratic principles of our nation,'' Waxman said.

Great! Now we have this national socialist cockroach saying crap like this. He was all for an imperial justice department when the national socialists were running it. Is this the way conservatives should act too? It's imperial when the other guy does it but fine when your guy does it?

199 posted on 12/13/2001 9:45:49 AM PST by SUSSA
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To: Luis Gonzalez

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"Bush has been in office for two years."
# 167 by exodus

"You are insane."
# 174 by Luis Gonzalez

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Yeah, I know, Luis.
See?
I caught it all by myself.


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To: motzman; RedBloodedAmerican
Yeah, I know.
Bush has been in office for one year.
Still plenty of time to bring a criminal to justice.
# 172 by exodus
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What about Clinton, Luis?
Do you believe that Bush will prosecute Clinton?
Or do you share my belief that Clinton will walk?

200 posted on 12/13/2001 9:47:27 AM PST by exodus
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