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Group-rape of girl cover up in Holland - an update
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Posted on 12/03/2001 10:30:30 AM PST by knighthawk

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To: AshleyMontagu
guess the ethnicity of certain crime perpetrators at a much higher rate than would be expected by demographics?

Ehhh... evidence? Police investigation? Ever heard of these advanced things, or are they reserved for the more intelligent?

This rapport made apparent that in the same period as the group-rape two more sexual assaults and public violence were comitted, supposedly by two groups of four boys (mostly Moroccan).

And of course, there exists a good deal of statistical material dealing with the distribution of various kinds of crime.

21 posted on 12/03/2001 11:55:31 AM PST by Cachelot
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To: SocialMeltdown
In Dutch you mean ;o)

For the record, IMHO Holland/The Netherlands has reached the point of no return. The socialists have damaged the country beyond repair, only an armed revolt would turn things around. Since private gun ownership is near impossible.....

Next year it's US Citizenship for me.

JP

22 posted on 12/03/2001 11:56:16 AM PST by EscapedDutch
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To: AshleyMontagu
guess the ethnicity of certain crime perpetrators at a much higher rate than would be expected by demographics?

Ehhh... evidence? Police investigation? Ever heard of these advanced things, or are they reserved for the more intelligent?

This rapport made apparent that in the same period as the group-rape two more sexual assaults and public violence were comitted, supposedly by two groups of four boys (mostly Moroccan).

And of course, there exists a good deal of statistical material dealing with the distribution of various kinds of crime.

23 posted on 12/03/2001 11:56:45 AM PST by Cachelot
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To: Cachelot
Double post. Seems FR wanted this one doubled. I musta said something significant :).
24 posted on 12/03/2001 12:03:34 PM PST by Cachelot
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To: sheik yerbouty
What is the punishment for rape under Islamic law?

The punishment for the rape of a Muslim woman under Islamic law is death - to the woman. Sentence is executed, usually, by the woman's relatives.

In order to accuse the assailant, she must secure the testimony of (I think) four men. After which, she will probably be stoned to death anyway.

There are no punishments for the rape of a non Muslim woman, as this is considered perfectly acceptable behavior.

The lines at rape crisis centers in Islamic countries are not long.

25 posted on 12/03/2001 12:42:38 PM PST by ahariail
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To: ahariail
"A week ago it became public, thanks to "de Telegraaf", that the citydistrict Westerpark knowingly tried to cover up the group-rape "not to cause public unrest". And while the citydistrict made sure that the "convicted" rapists were being helped by professionals, the girl and her fosterparents were "sort of" neglected. "

The rapists were being "helped." Sheesh. There are no words.....

26 posted on 12/03/2001 12:51:02 PM PST by Zorobabel
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To: Zorobabel
The rapists were being "helped." Sheesh. There are no words.....

Two come to mind: "Let's Roll"

27 posted on 12/03/2001 12:55:33 PM PST by ahariail
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To: wjeanw
"For eight years my husband and I were the directors of "The Ark" in Amsterdam, a Christian half-way house. I could talk to you for days on the horrible social conditions that lurk beneath the surface in the Netherlands "utopia."

Please do. People need to know this stuff.

28 posted on 12/03/2001 1:05:24 PM PST by Looking4Truth
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To: knighthawk
because of a suicide attempt the girl has comitted on 18 oktober 2001 and the fact that she keeps wounding herself with pieces of glass

This pains me. I know a young girl who used to be a cutter...it nearly makes me weep when I think long about the young lady--she needed pain to "steady herself," she tells me, "to keep her from doing something worse." She was so caught up in self-despite that she thought she deserved to hurt herself. Pray for these young girls, and remember them.

29 posted on 12/03/2001 1:10:23 PM PST by Pistias
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To: knighthawk
I read your profile. Glad to see that not all Europeans are Bolsheviks. I hope you decide to come live in the United States....we need good folks like you.
30 posted on 12/03/2001 1:26:32 PM PST by Godebert
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To: knighthawk
Didn't Holland change the age of consent to 14? Not that it would justify rape, but I know they want access to younger "women".
31 posted on 12/03/2001 1:29:16 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: SocialMeltdown
Well, these stories are in Dutch, not Danish. Dutch people live in the Netherlands (Holland) and Danish people in Denmark. It's a thing that many people outside of Europe often get mixed up. I live in the Netherlands, but I'd rather live in Denemarken, for they just choose a right winged governement instead of the lefties. These three articles you mentioned I translated myself (yes, I'm Dutch) here:

"Aanranden vaker verzwegen" (Sexual assaults covered up more often) and "Misbruikt meisje Tessa gedwongen in rijksinrichting" (Abused Girl Tessa Forced Into Psychatric Care) are translated right here above. The other article "Amsterdams Stadsdeel verzweeg groepsverkrachting voor de pers" I already posted a while ago, here.

32 posted on 12/03/2001 1:35:12 PM PST by knighthawk
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To: lady lawyer
I stand corrected. "Let the punishment fit the crime".
33 posted on 12/03/2001 1:41:18 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: Cachelot
With the first post you mean "Group-rape of girl cover up attempt uncovered in Holland"? It's the first article, this one is the follow up to inform you all of how events are developing.
34 posted on 12/03/2001 1:47:20 PM PST by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk
With the first post you mean

It's a comment on the general situation in the Netherlands, sort of - which that outrage is only a result of.

It's as someone else here commented, the criminals are getting plush "prisons" and the victims are getting the real prison stuff. Example: private ownership of guns is to all intents and purposes banned there, and if you should harm an assailant you will likely go to jail. That is, in fact, not uncommon in Europe, but most of Europe has somewhat less insane laws on gun ownership. Their laws tend to be fairly bizarre, though - such as odd pistol calibers because civilians may not be allowed to own calibers also in use by the military or police.

I have discussed gun laws with a few Netherlanders. They tend to get me upset. They also seem to think that being sheep is the most desirable state in the world..

35 posted on 12/03/2001 1:58:18 PM PST by Cachelot
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To: Cachelot; AshleyMontagu
Well, glad you people asked. In the first article (link on top of page) the Moroccan youths were arrested by the police and "conicted". And recently there was a lefties cover up of crime facts in Antwerpen (a large city in Belgium, the southern neigbors of the Netherlands). There the regional section of "Het Vlaamse Blok" (the Belgium Nationalists Party) confronted the citycounsil with the crime figures of ethnic people that according to the socialist citycousil were not available. The lefties kept on lying even when the Vlaams Blok were able to get the files from the central police computer. The lefties denied that these data enven excisted or was recorded. After a police official admitted the lefties had to confirm the facts. Why were they covered up? Read and shiver:

Although there are much less ethnics against locals in Antwerpen, the ethnics accounted for a total of 43% of the total crimes. Especialy Moroccan youths (what a coincedence) could be largely accounted for this.
In some categories the percentages are even higher:
Amred robbery (with or without violence) 68%
Grand theft auto: 52%
Quickthefts: 94% (!)
Pickpocketing: 47%

36 posted on 12/03/2001 2:04:12 PM PST by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk
very interesting story. It seems quite a phenomenon that we've read about that north african and arab men in europe and australia like to get together in groups and gang rape young white women. It speaks very negatively about the north african and arab immigrants who do this.

Also, I read that in the US the FBI stopped reporting the racial breakdown of rape statistics because the volume of white women raped by black men every year is so high in comparison to the volume of black women raped by white men. They didn't want to report the stat because people with a racial agenda could make hay out of it.

37 posted on 12/03/2001 2:06:36 PM PST by Red Jones
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To: EscapedDutch
You already got away? I am planning my escape from Holland too. I'm leaving while it's still somewhat a nice counrty to remember.
38 posted on 12/03/2001 2:07:15 PM PST by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk
The situation has gotten worse. Soon they'll be electing a rapist President and then covering up for his crimes.

BTW, for all the Holland bashers who take such comfort in loudly declaring how black and thick the sin is over there, guess which nation has a crime rate and a history of criminal excesses which make Holland's pale by comparison. That's right. America. We're number 1!!!

39 posted on 12/03/2001 2:08:55 PM PST by Melinator
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To: knighthawk
Although there are much less ethnics against locals in Antwerpen, the ethnics accounted for a total of 43% of the total crimes

Looks like the same sort of distribution we're seeing in a number of countries. And the same sort of unwillingness to talk about it, even though mostly, the data exists for the taking.

40 posted on 12/03/2001 2:10:31 PM PST by Cachelot
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