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Evangelist Graham in Presidential Hot Water Over Comments
Agape Press ^ | 11/20/01

Posted on 11/21/2001 9:28:59 AM PST by truthandlife

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To: RnMomof7
Who said he had "fellowship"? You accuse before you know. And even a Christian can disobey. You disobey too.
81 posted on 11/21/2001 11:42:20 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Austim
Receiving oral sex on Easter Sunday from an adultress puts Bill Clinton's faith in turmoil too.
82 posted on 11/21/2001 11:42:39 AM PST by weegee
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To: GraniteStateConservative
They think that they would be helping God by getting things started for Armageddon.

Not even Armageddon could make me cozy up to Islam, (a man-made religion birthed in paganism, idolatry, and demonism, and continuing to bear its evil fruit to this very day).

I would like to see my daughter graduate from high school/college, get married, have kids, etc. before I get turned to dust in a mushroom cloud. Crazy me.

The Islamists WOULD turn you to dust, if they had the power to do so. Don't blame Christians who tell the truth about em.

Wake up and smell the coffee. Appeasement never works. (That's why the name of Neville Chamberlain is despised to this very day).

All appeasement does is lend legitimacy to the enemy, and make him think you are weak, and vulnerable to further attack.

Do you think it would have been advisable for Roosevelt to have invited Nazis, Fascists, and Imperialist Japenese to the White House, after hostilities in WWII had already commenced?

84 posted on 11/21/2001 11:43:37 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: IvecrossedmyRubicon
You remind me of the guy who was served a fine meal and then was asked if he believed there was a cook.

Maybe there is a cook, but I'm not sure whether it is Emmeril, Julia Child, Maria Calendar or Chef Boy-ar-Dee.

85 posted on 11/21/2001 11:45:50 AM PST by Diverdogz
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To: USS_Ronald_Reagan_CVN76
"Exactly what was lost?"

What was lost was the dignity of the Unoted States of America, due to sanctioning of pagan prayer in the house of the President of the United States, a distinctly Christian Nation.

I voted for Bush, and I have supported him in his activities up to now. - I can no longer do so; he stands in overt defiance of the Lord and his Holy word.

86 posted on 11/21/2001 11:46:49 AM PST by editor-surveyor
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To: USS_Ronald_Reagan_CVN76
...and we're turning to our checkbooks to pay $9.95 for Robertson's new book on world conspiracies.

$9.95.....what a ripoff...

87 posted on 11/21/2001 11:49:25 AM PST by Nate505
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To: DittoJed2
RnMom, that is going farther than the evidence allows right now. The Apostle Paul was seen in the company of heathen as well (at Mars Hill) but did not partake in their religion. Don't get me wrong. This disturbs me greatly. But, I don't think we are at the point to say President Bush's conversion was false.

Did he go to the high places and make offerings to their gods,or did he preach the gospel to them?

Paul was a Roman citizen..did he want to go to Rome to visit the temples.and join in their prayer?

Ditto,there is a big difference..W is promoting and encouraging a false heathan religion..he is not giving them the gospel! In fact he is letting them give their false gospel in his house from his podium.....

Big difference

As a believer in Jesus Christ I could not do that could you?

88 posted on 11/21/2001 11:50:33 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
"My guess is he had a convienent political conversion..good to get some VRWC votes.."

An excellent analysis, unfortunately.

89 posted on 11/21/2001 11:51:08 AM PST by editor-surveyor
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To: weegee
Receiving oral sex on Easter Sunday from an adultress puts Bill Clinton's faith in turmoil too.

I am not here to defend Bill Clinton's Faith in Christ. However, there seems to be many here defending President Bush's Faith in Islam.

90 posted on 11/21/2001 11:53:27 AM PST by Austim
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To: RnMomof7
In the interest of "unity", brotherhood, fellowship, equal time, yadda yadda yadda... Could George Bush (or another Christian) been given an opportunity to say at Christian prayer at this gathering?
91 posted on 11/21/2001 11:55:05 AM PST by weegee
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To: Austim
"Who do you suppose Imam Abdullah Muhammad Khouj and the President were praying to?"

In god's word he is called The Dragon, the inventor of the lie, the prince of darkness, Lucifer, Satan, the accusor.

92 posted on 11/21/2001 11:56:40 AM PST by editor-surveyor
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To: editor-surveyor
Pagan (in the sense of non Christian or generalist) prayers have gone on in United States government facilities for years; in fact since before the Declaration of Independence. Look up Thomas Jefferson's philosophies, for example. Or Benjamin Franklin's. Old Theist Ben Franklin proposed the idea for the constitutional convention to meet and pray! Which they did, in various churches, whereupon the disagreements rapidly resolved.

The US has NEVER been "pure Christian."

I wish Bush would have not hosted this meeting, because of the precedent, but it hardly is "spoiling an unspotted record of a Christian Nation." We never had that unspotted record to begin with.

93 posted on 11/21/2001 11:56:43 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Austim
Clinton may have violated his marriage vows in the White House but he never violated his faith in Christ and Prayed to a Muslim god.

Geeeeeeeeeeeeeee I hate to say anything possitive about Bill Clinton..but you are right..at least he never did it publically (we do remember his private life though :>(

94 posted on 11/21/2001 11:56:56 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Who said he had "fellowship"? You accuse before you know. And even a Christian can disobey. You disobey too

He opened his doors...prayed and broke bread with them and you don't all that "fellowship"?

95 posted on 11/21/2001 11:59:01 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
We are told not to even speak with them..we are to have no fellowship at all

How narrow minded and intolerant of you.

..they have now been invited to eat and PRAY in MY house

It is my house too. Don't forget the Article IV from the constitution:

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

..there will be a spiritual price to pay for this..I will watch to see the price God will exact for this prostitution.

Hooo Boy. How exactly will you know what the 'spiritual price' is? Is your God gonna tell you? Or more likely, will you pick a 'bad thing' and claim it as the price we have to pay.....at which point I'll say it is because of YOUR narrowmindedness and intolerence that the incident happened.

96 posted on 11/21/2001 11:59:27 AM PST by Diverdogz
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To: HiTech RedNeck
You claim to be a redneck and you don't know that Billy Graham and his son Franklin are Baptist?
97 posted on 11/21/2001 11:59:49 AM PST by RickyJ
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To: RnMomof7
Maybe he was a (dis)avowed Satanist? He certainly surrounded himself with demons: Hillary, Janet Reno, and Carville...
98 posted on 11/21/2001 11:59:50 AM PST by weegee
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To: RnMomof7
You have yet to show that he prayed in concert with their prayers. Because you CAN'T!
99 posted on 11/21/2001 11:59:54 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: EternalVigilance
Don't blame Christians who tell the truth about em.

Amen

100 posted on 11/21/2001 12:00:53 PM PST by RnMomof7
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