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Would You Die For Your Faith?
The Spectator ^
| 10 Novem., 2001
| Katie Grant
Posted on 11/09/2001 12:18:53 PM PST by Romulus
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To: r9etb
Sword - die! Oh death where is thy sting?
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posted on
11/09/2001 2:11:55 PM PST
by
svcw
To: Romulus
If you were arrested today for practicing your faith, would there be enough evidence to convict you?
A thought provoking question, I think.
To: dadwags; SoothingDave; al_c; JHavard; Havoc; OLD REGGIE; Iowegian...
To be absent from the body is to be present to God.....May God grant me the Grace to stand in HIS name should it be necessary......My Savior died for me.....He bore my sins and transgressions....He paid the price for my sins.....I had a debt I could not pay....
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posted on
11/09/2001 2:15:48 PM PST
by
RnMomof7
To: vladog
You merely die for a secular faith, a civic faith, full of empty symbols like flags and eagles that mean nothing. It is the faith that men like Hitler and Stalin tried to build in their countries to replace true faith in a Creator, a living being who loves and is loved. You are the victim of an educational system that long ago set upon a path, openly proclaimed in its texts, to replace Christianity, where there can never be equality, since there are saved and unsaved, with a secular religion of the state, where there can be equality in that all can love the symbols of the great nation-state. And ever since, onward we have all marched toward the secular humanist police state that we have become. I, for one, would rather die for the jewish carpenter, than the iron eagle.
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posted on
11/09/2001 2:23:41 PM PST
by
stryker
To: stryker
You are the victim of an educational system that long ago set upon a path, openly proclaimed in its texts, to replace Christianity, where there can never be equality, since there are saved and unsaved, with a secular religion of the stateIt is a religion. Something always denied.
To: stryker
Sort of an 'exemption' preventing any competition.
Comment #47 Removed by Moderator
To: Romulus
Interesting read (passed his head around in a basket?) but I still think it shameful that folks are confusing the "raised consciousness" of so-called radical Muslims with faithful practice of Islam.
Particularly the monied youngsters who (as is the case in the families of plenty of wealthy Americans and the guy who ended up the speaker for the group that assassinated Sadat) are the PRIMARY targets for turning since their money and their connections and their educated heads are so much more useful than the cannon fodder they stuff into suicide bomber sausage casings.
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posted on
11/09/2001 2:37:05 PM PST
by
Askel5
To: Romulus
This is nonsense, of course. They "young men" are not dying for their faith, they are volunteering to kill for a radical cause. There's a small difference.
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posted on
11/09/2001 2:39:29 PM PST
by
LadyDoc
To: Romulus
I will die when Jesus Christ decides my time is up, not one minute sooner, not one minute later.
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posted on
11/09/2001 2:40:17 PM PST
by
exnavy
To: RnMomof7
Very eloquent,mom,I pray that I will die in the Faith,whatever the cause of my passing .
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posted on
11/09/2001 2:40:36 PM PST
by
dadwags
To: dadwags
Did you ever consider Steven..or Paul.....
May God give us all the grace to be exactly what we need to be for His glory huh?? Because I am not a brave person!
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posted on
11/09/2001 2:42:55 PM PST
by
RnMomof7
To: Romulus
Would I die for my faith? I should have to ask for sufficient grace and strength to do so rather than denounce Christ and convert to another religion.
Would I die for a particular version of the Christian faith? I don't know.
This I do know, I would rather die for my faith rather than kiss the Koran like the pope did. I would like to think I would never knowingly do such a thing! It is such an irony because the pope is in so many ways far holier than I could ever hope to be but I could not follow his example in this particular way.
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posted on
11/09/2001 2:46:20 PM PST
by
Aliska
To: Romulus
This is certainly something that all Christians who believe we are living in the last days should contemplate. Revelation is very clear that Satan will make war with the Saints and overcome them, they will come before a court and be sentenced to beheading.
I think a persons realtionship with God will have a great influence on if the answer is yes or no. Yes is the easy answer when your door is not being kicked in yet, but when that boot is heard splintering wood, and your children run for you, God's strength is all that is going to get a person through it.
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To: Romulus
I'm thinking of starting a Christian T-shirt business, so, yes, I'd dye for my faith.
To: Askel5
(passed his head around in a basket?) After-dinner port is traditionally (and quite logically) passed to the left, but I confess I have no idea what etiquette has to say about the passing of severed heads. What a barbarous age it is that we inhabit!
Sometimes I pity the Muslims, seeing them as fellow descendants of Abraham, targeted by the evil one not like us -- Christians and Jews -- by temptation to deficient faith (atheism and idolatry), but to a faith that's robust but disordered: irrational, fanatic, cut off from both the Law and Mercy. But in the end, it all points back to Abraham -- does it not? -- and especially to his charitable, hospitable, life-loving monotheism that the adversary so despises.
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posted on
11/09/2001 6:38:49 PM PST
by
Romulus
To: ArGee
Bump for later
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posted on
11/10/2001 5:36:05 AM PST
by
ArGee
To: Romulus; Jerry_M; RnMomof7; Mark17; the_doc
Moreover, I have a suspicion that, faced with the threat 'convert or die', the instincts of even Catholic and Anglican bishops would be to compromise. Speaks volumes, doesn't it!
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posted on
11/10/2001 3:25:17 PM PST
by
CCWoody
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