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Reunited with his dog (Decorated Vietnam Vet Arrested #6)
www.sandiegouniontribune.com ^ | November 9, 2001 | STAFF WRITER Dana Littlefield

Posted on 11/09/2001 9:08:45 AM PST by B4Ranch

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To: Cultural Jihad
CJ---this is a difficult and sad situation. People must do what they can when they can. I am pleased we, collectively, were able to have a positive impact on Mr. Northcut's life. I have visited VA hospitals in the past, and attended parades and ceremonies in honor of our veterans. Thanks for the reminder that there is much to be done and each of us should try to do just a little bit more.
201 posted on 11/10/2001 8:34:13 AM PST by krunkygirl
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To: krunkygirl
Thanks for the reminder that there is much to be done and each of us should try to do just a little bit more.

With 250,000 homeless vets, that's a lot of emails to be sent out to all the city governments demanding that they all be left alone and ignored in their plight.

202 posted on 11/10/2001 8:40:09 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Your sarcasm sounds as if you're disappointed that this event had a successful conclusion. Is that true?
203 posted on 11/10/2001 8:51:59 AM PST by Scuttlebutt
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To: Cultural Jihad
CJ---you sound very bitter. That is sad too. I know I won't save the world but I will continue to do good things in small ways when I can.
204 posted on 11/10/2001 9:08:36 AM PST by krunkygirl
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To: krunkygirl
I know I won't save the world but I will continue to do good things in small ways when I can.

That's a nice thought.

205 posted on 11/10/2001 9:24:01 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Allow me to make a rare comment to you. If our government had a program that would do something to raise Northcut's standard of living I would be screaming for other FReepers to aid me in making sure that the officials took care of him. It is because they don't have gdamn thing that will help that I want him left to his civilian friends.

He is claustrophobic and therefore requiring him to sleep indoors means that he has to take a medicine that is not needed when sleeping outdoors. Doctors need their patients to fit into catagories. Well, this one doesn't fit into a large catagory, maybe something like .01% of all homeless Vets are claustrophobic, so the politicians and doctors have ignored them knowing full well that they exist.

It is much easier to medicate and jail than it is to treat and cure. You aren't a teenager, you should know this.(Don't expect a reply to a smarta** response.)

206 posted on 11/10/2001 9:28:14 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: Cultural Jihad
Nobody is suggesting the homeless be left alone! We are suggesting that they should be treated with fairness and compassion. The lady at the city whom I spoke with, Lucy, did not even know he was a vet. She had never spoken with him. She had never asked if he needed help. She was locked in a tomb of ignorance and needed to be enlightened a bit! We did that! Hopefully our actions will create a situation where people take notice and try to do something useful. It is NOT useful to strike out against people by hurting them in their heart at the first blow.
207 posted on 11/10/2001 10:05:07 AM PST by MistyCA
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To: B4Ranch
Often times the way people like Northcut are brought to their knees and MADE to fit into our society is with drugs. They fit in then because they are in a state of stupor...one which he probably suffered with for the years he was in a facility. For the poor man to stand up for himself and try to relieve himself of his state of stupor, he would have had to leave the facility and find his way in the world...a way that he could survive. Our first instinct is to survive, after all.

Go sometime to an old folks home. You will see the people circling the halls in their wheel chairs talking to themselves and looking for someone familiar. Or you will see those who are cowering in a corner unable to trust, unable to relate. Many times these people are on continual medication to "relax" them and make them fit into their surroundings. In other words, they are drugged into a state of accepting life as someone else has designed it for them. It is sad. It is pathetic. It is sometimes necessary because there simply is no one in the world willing to provide those people with what they really need....a friendly hand, a loving kiss, a safe environment elsewhere.

I have watched 10 of the elders in my family die in the past few years. I only have a couple more to go before my generation takes their place. Each of them taught me a new lesson about what it really means to become old. I watched drugs being adminstered and trusted that the drs knew what they were doing. I then saw the hallucinations and stupors caused by some of the drugs. And I heard the begs of "get me out of this place." And I learned that if we do not step in and offer better solutions the doctors will be right there with their meds to fix what is wrong with them. Thank God in my family we were able to advocate for our elders and take them home and offer them lives of dignity. It just killed me to see all of the people who had no one....or no one who took the time to give a damn.

On a daily basis my mom walks through the house humming a song and asking me, "what am I doing here....what's next...it's the pits getting old....don't ever get old!" She has dementia and I know she would drive someone who didn't appreciate her right up a wall. I give up a lot by staying home and taking care of her, but I would have it no other way. She is one of the last of a long line of people who we did the same for. The elderly and the mentally disturbed get keyholed in society. One day Northcut will have to relent and accept care because he will not be able to do for himself. I know the first avenue of care will be drugs that make him NOT FEEL himself. It's a frustrating and horrible thought to me. Today he is free....he deserves to be left that way!

208 posted on 11/10/2001 10:30:40 AM PST by MistyCA
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To: B4Ranch
As I said This country needs to treat problems like this as one eats an elephant
one bite at a time,
and not by throwing money at the problem in the vain hope that if you throw enough money at it it will go away.

At the risk of stereotyping the homeless and homeless Vets in particular,
Communities must set up some type of Triage to deal with their problems.

By Triage, I mean deciding who needs what type of help.
RT is a prime example of a Homeless Vet that has made his place in the world by his choice,
and he is comfortable in his choice,
and that should be respected.
But others are not so lucky,
There are those that are homeless due to fate,
They have failed to maintain what we all strive to achieve,
a decent job,
a home,
and a life without want.
In short they have fallen on hard times and are despondent over their failure.
They are the ones that need retraining, job placement and most importantly a roof over their heads while they regroup.
All too often they are thrown into shelters that make no distinction between their needs,
and the needs of those with abuse problems or severe mental problems.
Seperating shelters into facillities that address certain problems would truly make a dent in the problem of homelessness
and the downward cycle that it carries with it.
It also requires the willingness to do so.
And that is something most communities are not ready to tackle head on.
It is all too easy to use the force of law to run them off so that they are someone else's problem instead.

209 posted on 11/10/2001 10:45:38 AM PST by usmcobra
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To: B4Ranch
Thanks for the ping.
210 posted on 11/10/2001 11:04:01 AM PST by jo6pac
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To: mystomachisturning
Your eloquence speaks for itself.

Thank you

211 posted on 11/10/2001 11:06:13 AM PST by jo6pac
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To: jo6pac
Wow. Nice sentiment and I truly appreciate it. Thanks.
212 posted on 11/10/2001 11:24:14 AM PST by MistyCA
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
:) Hey Tonkin...the dog is home, muzzle on nose...too bad we can't muzzle bill and hill the same way.
213 posted on 11/10/2001 1:25:58 PM PST by nancetc
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To: B4Ranch
Awww, Thanks friend!!! TJ looks like a little old man. I noticed the white whiskers :o( Just makes me so mad that a city would be so calous. I hope America is waking back up out of their collective "sleep".

Someone above here, mentioned how strange the world has become regarding dogs these days. I truly used to be, that dogs ran free. I think dogs were more social back then. They didn't attack innocent people like now, because they were raised "around" humans more. Around kids in the neighborhoods.

People knew which ones were NON social..and they were kept chained or pinned up.

Not sure of the answer to that scenario any longer.. but do know that this story was heart wrenching!!!

Thanks for the pics friend. Mary Ann

214 posted on 11/10/2001 1:47:59 PM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: nancetc
Online Petition to Reform the Veterans Administration System!
We ask that The Congress enact legislation to restore the Rights and Dignity to those
who served and to protect those rights from the constant erosion that has taken place.

215 posted on 11/10/2001 1:49:21 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: NAMMARINE
And those who express opinions different than yours is "idiots out of the woodwork."
216 posted on 11/10/2001 2:06:20 PM PST by nancetc
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To: NAMMARINE
NOTICE THERE IS NO MORE NAMMARINE...OH MY
217 posted on 11/10/2001 2:07:05 PM PST by nancetc
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To: B4Ranch
BTTT- So happy Mr. Northcut has T.J. back!
218 posted on 11/10/2001 2:33:34 PM PST by firewalk
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To: B4Ranch
Did anyone else notice something peculiar about the Dept. of Veteran's Affairs article that CJ posted in #200?

From the article:
About one-third of the adult homeless population have served their country in the Armed Services.
And this:
At this time, scientific studies indicate that there is no known, direct connection between military service, service in Vietnam, or exposure to combat and any increased risk of becoming homeless

Hmmm...1 out of 3 homeless people are veterans, but there is no connection between military service and homelessness. Well, unless 1 out of 3 of all adult US citizens are veterans, these two statements can't both be true.

Move along folks, nothing to see here.

219 posted on 11/10/2001 2:39:29 PM PST by lonevoice
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
It is a fact that when a dog is chained up he becomes protective and aggressive in defense of his space. Dogs are socialized by allowing them to interact with society. I also remember when dogs were allowed to roam more freely and I can't recall ever having a problem with that.
220 posted on 11/10/2001 5:15:45 PM PST by MistyCA
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