Anti-gun tie to Columbine???

Concealed Carry Handguns ^ | #9 2001 | Massad Ayoob

[RichardEdward]

does anyone know if this is true? how about an online source to back it up??

[labusiness]

Bump to the expert.

[Gimlet]

Anti-gun parents or not, these punks of hold of guns and used them with deadly force. These were kids who should never had had them.

[Skibane]

It's news to me...However, it seems like this card would have already been played if it were true.

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[Servant of the Nine]

I hadn't seen the Article, but I can tell you who Massad Ayoob is.
He is a Police Officer, and Firearms Trainer. He is one of the top Expert witnesses in the country in shooting cases. He writes for a variety of gun magazines and is as pro gun as they come.

I have heard some people say they didn't like him or like his 'style', but I have never heard anyone question his competence or his honesty.

So9

[wita]

Massad has a great deal of credibilty, reliability, and standing, in the gun community, did he write what you placed at the beginning of this thread or did you, and if he wrote it, where is the associated article. Visiting the Harris link provides nothing to substantiate who wrote what.

[CWRWinger]

I am not going to flame you. I agree with your statement.

I have read there was a Dept. of Education, Goals 2000 type person on site just before the shootings. There's the mind control part.

[Djarum]

True. A second amendment advocate in Colorado brought this fact to my attention.

[zog]

Columbine was without a doubt the clearest-cut case of a mind control reichstagg fire event I have seen. Indisputable. Witness after live witness in real time saying there were THREE SHOOTERS. Two kids, and an adult, heard it several times as I watched the live feeds. By that evening, heck, pretty swiftly in the afternoon, all those video tapes never shown again, but the other clips over and over and over again. Feds up the wazoo just real handy like hanging out on the corner. Local cops ordered to not go in. Until all the adult eyewitnesses were DEAD, that is hours later. Crucial state vote on guns concurrently, NRA national meeting. WAY too many coincidences and clues there. Drugs, ritalin, maybe others. Programming, TELEFON.

[zip]

Ping

[wysiwyg]

does anyone know if this is true?

Yes, it is true. I don't have a reference handy, but I'm sure a thorough internet search would turn something up. Check the Keep and Bear Arms and the Gun Owners of America web sites.

[Waco]

No surprise here. The media covers it up. There is NO mention in the media that medicare/drug coverage was PASSED in the 80s,,,,,,AND repealed in record time. Also no mention of James Dale's little incident in Fla. which was covered 1 time by Paul Harvey. Where's your feet, Jimmie boy????

[meadsjn]

You have a lot of catching up to do. The Manes fellow who sold one of the TEC-9s to Eric and Dylan, was the son of a local HCI mouthpiece.

None of the fatalities was from the 9mm pistols; eleven of the students killed were hit by shotgun blasts at close range. The round which killed Daniel Rohrbaugh is suspected to be neither 9mm or shotgun, possibly .40 S&W, but his father is still suing to get the truth about that little detail. The girl who purchased the shotguns (the actual murder weapons) for Eric and Dylan the previous fall, Robyn Andersen, never even took a ride in a squad car. She later testified before the legislature against the mythical "gun show loophole" in return. Pathetic creature.

Dylan's parents were described as liberals, but I don't recall hearing of any connection they had with HCI or other anti-gun groups, except the Democrat party.

The Colorado legislature had just passed a concealed carry (shall issue) bill, and it was headed to the Governor to sign, and he had promised to sign it. After the shooting, he rolled over for the left and vetoed the bill.

You can search www.google.com using "freerepublic" and "Columbine" and find the links to the hundreds of threads on these topics.

The Columbine Research Task Force also has some good research material.

Good luck, and happy reading.

[Balding_Eagle]

There WAS a lot of stuff happening all at that time. Then Govenor 'stab in the back' Owens did just that to CCW. Wonder how many lives that has cost.

Frustrating.

[america76]

This is the kind of thing that makes me wonder what is really going on in this country. Strange forces at work, there is little doubt in that.

[Washingtonian]

John Lott's book More Guns, Less Crime has a brief discussion about this. He cites an article from the New York Times.

[MileHi]

Dylan's parents were described as liberals, but I don't recall hearing of any connection they had with HCI or other anti-gun groups, except the Democrat party.

I do recall hearing that Klebolds folks were active in HCI. I recall talking about that with the father of one of the victims from the library and how ironic that seemed. I have no source to verify that however.