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Jew who loses security clearance blames anti-Semitism in the military
JTA Online ^ | Oct. 29, 2001 | Sharon Samber

Posted on 10/30/2001 10:44:50 AM PST by AshleyMontagu

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Where's Foxman and the ADL? This is an outrage bordering on biblical proportions.
1 posted on 10/30/2001 10:44:50 AM PST by AshleyMontagu
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To: AshleyMontagu
This guy's complaints are indeed ridiculous. No other country in the world permits its citizens to belong to another country's army.

Anti-Semitism? Try common sense.

2 posted on 10/30/2001 10:47:45 AM PST by wideawake
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To: AshleyMontagu
Or there could be elements missing from the story? IMO, that's the more likely scenario than an arbitrary loss of clearance because he's Jewish. Oy!
3 posted on 10/30/2001 10:47:49 AM PST by mgc1122
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To: AshleyMontagu
Here we go again. 100 posts at least.
4 posted on 10/30/2001 10:49:11 AM PST by richwolo
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To: AshleyMontagu
This is old news. Haven't you posted arabist stuff in the past?
5 posted on 10/30/2001 10:51:16 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: AshleyMontagu
Jew who loses lottery ticket blames anti-Semitism in the lottery.

Jew who loses voting ballot blames anti-Semitism in the elections.

Jew who loses suntan blames anti-Semitism in the sun.

Jew who loses airplane seat blames anti-Semitism in the airline.

Unfortunately, now and then a Jew is found to be a Sore Loserman.

Funny thing is, though, if you read a number of the conservative articles written, which are posted to Free Republic, you'll find that some are written by Jews who do not feel the need to inhale and then exhale - and - remind - everyone - of - their - ethnicity.

In fact, they're so good at not blaming other people, you wouldn't know that they're conservative, or should I say Jewish ... whatever.

6 posted on 10/30/2001 10:52:46 AM PST by First_Salute
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To: sheik yerbouty
This is old news.

Should we ignore all news that is over a day old? This forum would get pretty boring.

Haven't you posted arabist stuff in the past?

'arabist stuff'? What the heck is that? If you think I have posted 'arabist stuff' just do a search and show everyone. Good luck.

8 posted on 10/30/2001 10:56:36 AM PST by AshleyMontagu
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To: sheik yerbouty; verb
You get the door prize for Freeper Name of the Month.
9 posted on 10/30/2001 10:56:41 AM PST by First_Salute
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To: AshleyMontagu
A reservist?

A dual-citizen?

What a maroon.

10 posted on 10/30/2001 10:59:28 AM PST by NativeNewYorker
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To: First_Salute
Yep, it is funny how those who ridicule minority groups for always crying 'racism' are the first to play the 'anti-Semite' card from the bottom of the deck whenever things don't go their way. A culture of victimhood is ugly no matter who wallows in it.
11 posted on 10/30/2001 11:00:12 AM PST by AshleyMontagu
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"Jewish sensitivity to accusations of dual loyalty has increased since the infamous case of Jonathan Pollard."

Heres the problem. There is no such creature as "dual loyalty".

12 posted on 10/30/2001 11:00:41 AM PST by gnarledmaw
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Dual-citizenship but not dual-loyalty to go with it? That doesn't make sense.
13 posted on 10/30/2001 11:03:12 AM PST by Dakmar
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To: wideawake
This guy's complaints are indeed ridiculous. No other country in the world permits its citizens to belong to another country's army.

While the U.S. does allow non-U.S. citizens into our military, what is bothersome about this story is that a person with so-called dual citizenship even had a security clearance in the first place. The U.S., to my knowledge, does not recognize "dual citizenship". If you can't renounce one citizenship or the other, then your loyalties are divided. I would apply that to anyone who has U.S. citizenship without formally renouncing their old citizenship status, because the oath of citizenship requires you to renounce allegiance to all other countries. People who maintain dual U.S. (insert other country here) citizenship have broken their U.S. citizenship oath, so should not get security clearance to begin with, in my opinion. I don't care what the other country is.

14 posted on 10/30/2001 11:04:34 AM PST by wimpycat
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To: First_Salute
Many thanks.
15 posted on 10/30/2001 11:05:05 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: AshleyMontagu
A loyalty issue millions of our "American" citizens have.
16 posted on 10/30/2001 11:09:24 AM PST by gohabsgo
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To: wimpycat
Doesn't stop them from voting in US elections.
17 posted on 10/30/2001 11:14:08 AM PST by Patria One
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To: Dakmar
See #14.
18 posted on 10/30/2001 11:14:18 AM PST by gnarledmaw
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To: Dakmar
The Oath of Citizenship

I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God. In acknowledgement whereof I have hereunto affixed my signature.

While I realize that the guy in question was born in the U.S., the principle remains the same. In fact, it's even worse to accept citizenship in another country if you're already American, as far as I'm concerned. You can't be a U.S. citizen AND a citizen of another country, and expect everyone to believe that all your loyalty is for the U.S. And anyone not TOTALLY loyal to the U.S. should not be trusted with U.S. secrets.

19 posted on 10/30/2001 11:15:15 AM PST by wimpycat
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To: veronica; Sabramerican; AshleyMontagu
No underlying animosity with Ash....

Ashley, Please flag me if you ever post something that isn't negative toward Jews.

20 posted on 10/30/2001 11:15:46 AM PST by JMJ333
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