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Enough is Enough!!! Time To Cancel ALL VISAS Of Aliens in USA!!
Israel Broadcasting Network ^
| October 25, 2001
| Arutz Sheva
Posted on 10/25/2001 2:52:11 PM PDT by FresnoDA
NOW IS THE TIME TO CANCEL ALL VISAS!! WE MUST DEPORT ALL ALIENS, ENACT A MORATORIUM ON IMMIGRATION!!!
Read me 1st!!
September 27, 2001, Thursday
A NATION CHALLENGED: IMMIGRATION; Suspects in Hijackings Exploited Loopholes in Immigration Policy
By DIANA JEAN SCHEMO and ROBERT PEAR
Source: The New York Times
Section: National Desk
1291 words
Abstract
Hijackers who flew airliners into World Trade Center and Pentagon exploited immigration system that critics contend is riddled with loopholes and that is geared to ease the way for commerce, whether in form of tourism, business or study; experts on terrorism say security precautions often take back seat to pressure from industry, concerns of neighboring governments and even bureaucratic rivalries in US government; say sheer volume of daily border crossings--300 by land from Mexico alone--make exclusion of all foreign terrorists impossible; photo (M)
Read me 2nd!
Five Israelis Held In New York
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| October 25, 2001 Five young Israelis are "on the verge of collapse," according to family members, as their incarceration in New York on charges relating to the Bin Laden attacks continues. They were arrested on Sept. 11, only hours after the World Trade Center attack, on charges of "plotting to blow up" a New York bridge.
Katie Shmuel of the Galilee town of Yokne'am, southeast of Haifa, says that her son Yaron is in "a very critical psychological situation," given that they are not allowed to have visitors and the difficult conditions in which they are being held. "Even the Israeli Consul-General in New York was allowed to visit only after asking several times and receiving a special permit," Katie told Arutz-7's Yosef Zalmanson today. "He was allowed to talk to them only in English, and only from behind a glass partition. The Consul told me that the boys are in a bad state and that they are being held under difficult conditions."
When asked why the five youths, aged 22-26, are being held, Katie replied with despair: "It's ludicrous. They were on the George Washington Bridge [between upper Manhattan and New Jersey] at the time of the bombing, and the FBI had warnings of a terrorist plot, of guys in a white van, to blow up the bridge. So when the FBI saw this van, with my son and his four friends - one of them had a large sum of money, there were two razor knives in the van, and one of the boys is named Omer, which the FBI guys thought was Omar - they put one and one together and got three, and immediately arrested them... For the first few days, the boys were held in an FBI dungeon, tied up, with no clothes and no food." She said that original reports that they had been arrested while boisterously watching the disaster from a rooftop "are totally fabricated. For one thing, they weren't even on a roof, they were in a van..."
When asked how she explains her son's continued incarceration and that of his friends, she said, "I truly have no explanation for this incredible story - except this: The Americans are using them as pawns to pressure the Israeli government. Am I being clear enough?" She said that President Moshe Katzav and others had attempted to intervene, but there have been no results so far. The youths are being held in the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn.
A spokesperson for the Israeli Consulate in New York told Arutz-7 that in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks, "the Americans now have different procedures for dealing with the detention of anyone arrested in connection with the attacks. Every single request of ours must go through the FBI and the State Department's legal team." She said, "We are doing as much as we possibly can on their behalf," including, she said, getting local Jewish leaders involved in the cause of the imprisoned young Israelis.
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Comment #321 Removed by Moderator
To: Mak90kidoflincolnNE
What good would that do? Most of the liberals would still be hereWell jezz, thats a jack ass statement. Was it the liberals that were in our nation on visas and expired visas and that flew huge commercial jet airliners into gigantic skyscrapers killing thousands of Americans?
Please think for a moment, before you type.
To: Mak90kidoflincolnNE
And then again, maybe you were just being sarcastic...
To: Byron_the_Aussie
What about those 2 Arabs he had been seen with?
324
posted on
12/25/2001 10:21:25 PM PST
by
FITZ
To: Persian_Libertarian
bttt
To: Joe Hadenuf
...you quoted this from my post#287: "can you garantee that out of the millions and millions of illegal aliens none will murder our citizens or commit brutal crimes against us"?.... And you respond by posting a picture of Tim McVey.
What the sam hell does Tim McVey have to do with millions of criminal illegal aliens?....
Nothing. The point I am making is that someone doesn't have to be an illegal alien to murder citizens or commit brutal crimes.
Comprende?
To: Mak90kidoflincolnNE
..you say he is spreading fear by giving his opinion on illegal aliens. You reply by trying to spread more fear by saying that opinion is reminiscent of the klan,(and showing a scary picture to boot). It is you who are fear-mongering.......and it's you who's clumsily distorting. The guy wants all aliens to have their visas rescinded and thence deported. That's Klan stuff, and you know it. But my real beef with this silly thread is that, even if such a thing were possible, it wouldn't have the slightest effect on terrorism.
To: FITZ
...what about those 2 Arabs he had been seen with?...Spell it out, Fitz. You think McVeigh was working for Al-Qaeda?
Just think for a minute. Can you imagine the extra powers the CIA, INS and FBI would need to carry through such a ridiculous policy? Putting aside the 24/7 media hysteria, are you facing any personal threat from Arabs? If you think you are, is throwing out the Bill of Rights and the Constitution going to make you any safer?
To: Byron_the_Aussie
A witness saw him with two Arabs and who knows who they were working for. We are losing our freedoms thanks to these new foreigners. In this town, the synagogues don't open now unless there are security guards inside and out. How's that for freedom of worship? We've let the enemy here and they're taking our rights faster than anything. We don't need this kind of diversity, to allow them to stay requires the rest of us lose our freedoms.
329
posted on
12/26/2001 5:04:05 AM PST
by
FITZ
To: Byron_the_Aussie
someone doesn't have to be an illegal alien to murder citizens That doesn't justify letting bin Laden and Saddam Hussein's men into this country and giving them total access to everything to carry out their plans.
330
posted on
12/26/2001 5:07:20 AM PST
by
FITZ
To: FITZ
A witness saw him with two Arabs and who knows who they were working for. We are losing our freedoms thanks to these new Islamic foreigners. In this town, the synagogues don't open now unless there are security guards inside and out. How's that for freedom of worship? We've let the Islamic enemy here and they're taking our rights faster than anything. We don't need this kind of diversity, to allow them to stay requires the rest of us lose our freedoms. Added bold above mine.
We have no reason to fear non-Islamic immigrants.
To: Byron_the_Aussie
...and it's you who's clumsily distorting. The guy wants all aliens to have their visas rescinded and thence deported. That's Klan stuff, and you know it. How is rescinding "visas", which are a PREVILEDGE granted to aliens, "Klan Stuff"? You wacky libertarians act as if foreigners are American citizens and have a birthright to come to America. And how does the exercise of this governmental right while we fighting a worldwide war against terrorism equate with what the Klan did back some 80 years ago? You seem to exhibit the same irrational thought process that most liberal have.
332
posted on
12/26/2001 8:35:09 AM PST
by
WRhine
To: Persian_Libertarian
Don't try using logic with some of the posters here ... it only baffles them and encourages them to type in all CAPS as if screaming makes one's argument more legitimate.
Yes, we are in a war with terrorists, be it Taliban or Arafat. However, labeling all foreigners as terrorists or all Muslims as evil is hardly truthful or useful. OH No!! I'm trying to use logic .... please excuse me and continue all you CAPS LOCKED unfortunates.
To: FresnoDA
We must cancel all Visas Yes, excellent idea but remember to cancell other credit cards like MasterCard. And shoot all those who buy plane tickets with cash! This should do it.
334
posted on
12/26/2001 8:52:50 AM PST
by
A. Pole
To: FresnoDA
bttt
To: S.O.S121.500
bttt
To: FITZ
...in this town, the synagogues don't open now unless there are security guards inside and out. How's that for freedom of worship? We've let the enemy here and they're taking our rights faster than anything....Fitz, the enemy are not taking our rights. We're surrendering them. It's exactly the same story here in Sydney with synagogues, Jewish schools, airline security; a story of mass hysteria, and a response completely out of all proportion to the 'threat', if there is a threat. We've had no terrorist incidents at all, yet Sydney airport is full of bored guards standing around in their black paramilitary uniforms. Yes, you guys had a morning of horrific terror in two cities three months ago. Those who carried it out are all dead. There have been no subsequent attacks. Yet some Americans are carrying on like the local Qwiky Mart could be targeted at any moment by Al-Qaeda. Who wins from all this madness? 1. the media, and 2. the government.
More money, and more power...............
To: FITZ
...that doesn't justify letting bin Laden and Saddam Hussein's men into this country and giving them total access to everything to carry out their plans....Terrorists don't need to visit the US to carry out an attack on American assets or citizens. Witness the Nairobi embassy, or the Cole. If you're serious about this idea of deporting all foreigners as a security measure, you'd also have to ban overseas travel by Americans. And what all this would do to American exports doesn't bear thinking about. How long do you think the boss of Dubai Chevrolet would keep buying cars, if he wasn't able to visit his supplier? Think it through, for crying out loud.......
To: WRhine
...how is rescinding "visas", which are a PREVILEDGE granted to aliens, "Klan Stuff"? You wacky libertarians act as if foreigners are American citizens and have a birthright to come to America....No way. You guys have got a right to decide who comes to your country. We just fought an election over that very issue. But since when is collective guilt the way to decide immigration, or for that matter, any other policies? Some of your argument reminds me so much of the liberals', on guns- someone commits a crime with a gun, so all gunowners are responsible.
....and how does the exercise of this governmental right while we fighting a worldwide war against terrorism equate with what the Klan did back some 80 years ago?....
Government has NO RIGHTS. Period.
To: Joe Hadenuf
As usual Joe, as a fellow Californian, I agree with your views wholeheartedly. We've had enough!
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