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Let's see. We have Games 1 & 2 of the World Series Saturday and Sunday! Local Rumor has it that Someone VERY.VERY IPORTANT WILL THROW OUT THE FIRST BALL OF GAME 1! We also have the Duralube 500 Race this weekend! Oh and the Cardinals play on Sunday, ho hum. Said Squaw peak is maybe 5.5 miles from Downtown where the Bank One Ballpark is located. And the notice said very heavy backpacks!!!! Air traffic also comes in for a Western aproach to Sky Harbor from the east very nearly over Squaw Peak. Actually it is between the mountain and my house! And correct me if I am in error, but I beleive a BACKPACK NUKE OF 50 to 75 LBS is anywhere from 1 to 5 KILOTONS Yield! Said article also mentioned that there were several heavy backpacks! Arizona freepers it is time to reconoittere the terrain around this mountain and see if there is something Buried in the washes! We have till Saturday if this is A WORST CASE SCENERIO! My thinking is that an EMP BURST IS THE BEST CASE FROM THE TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN AT GAME TIME SATURDAY! Worst Case is to horrible to contemplate if this is anything to worry about!
1 posted on 10/24/2001 9:13:13 PM PDT by Azarona Joel
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To: looscannon
Did you see this???????
57 posted on 10/24/2001 10:06:54 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: Azarona Joel
Great. The same Phoenix chapter of the FBI who is telling us to chill out, is the same one who let that other creep slip by, the Bin Laden "connection" that lived in Tempe who knew/associated w/ Hani Hanjoor (and denied it). Even though we finally rounded up that goat-roper, it doesn't make me sleep any easier in this town. I moved here for the weather, I hope it doesn't get any warmer this weekend. This is very disturbing, even if it didn't pan out.
62 posted on 10/24/2001 10:08:12 PM PDT by kstewskis
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To: Azarona Joel
ART BELL ALERT: He is buddy-buddy with this guy Hoagland, former consultant to NASA/CBS (gotta shake out the mothballs and cobwebs on this one) and a BIG pusher on the face on Mars theory.

Anyway Hoaxland (as he's known on newsgroups.A.F.A-B) says that one of the suitcase bombs was hidden in the Washington Monument during renovations.
I recall from an album of old radio programs that the stone contribed by the Vatican was radioactive, "but wasn't dangerous".

Much like the widening of I-93 in NH a few years ago produced low-level radioactive "waste" in the form of granite rock conventionally blasted out of the way.

For what it's worth.

72 posted on 10/24/2001 10:19:45 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Azarona Joel
There is nothing you can do, or are allowed to do. So maybe you should think about packing up the family, take your birth certificates, photo albums, important papers, and go on a little vacation during that time. You have to be a survivor, you have to survive the terrorists and your government, it's doable.

Let your instincts be your guide, if you feel this is a reasonable threat, take off.

79 posted on 10/24/2001 10:27:12 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Azarona Joel
Permit me an analogy...

The West side of the city is inhabited by rich people. They have expensive cars, buildings, centers of commerce, communication towers, transportation systems, energy and water treatment plants.

The East side of the city is filled with very poor people living in cardboard and mud. Surprisingly, most people in the East do not aspire to be Westerners despite the obvious advantages. Rather, these Easterners despise the West, and wish, and plot, for its demise.

One September day, the West is brutally ambushed by a faction of the East whose leaders particularly hate the West. The West moves to arrest and/or kill the leaders of this one group. But people in the East are angry that the West would dare attack anyone from the East, irrespective of the guilt of the party responsible, and begin to bristle at the Western actions.

As the days pass, one Eastern faction after another calls for the end of the attacks, and violent protests erupt into riot. Some Easterners rush to join their colleagues to defy the invading Westerners.

The tensions slowly mount.

The West is inhabited by a majority of people who believe that Easterners need only be welcomed with open arms to appease them. From their comfortable perspective, they believe the world to be as rational and civil as the West. As as a result, Easterners are permitted to walk freely among them. Indeed, laws are made to prevent any discrimination between Westerners and Easterners.

As the war erupts, the West is caught off-guard by one terrorist act after another. These atrocities are conducted by seemingly friendly Easterners who live among them, but whose allegiance is firmly with the East. Still, nothing is done to prevent the free passage of Easterners within the Western regions.

The openness and civility of the West begins to prove its downfall. On the other hand, in the East, a Westerner is easily identified. This, and the lack of an infrastructure prevent effective retaliation. The enemy is not easily separated from civilians.

As one internal attack after another bombards the West, now from many different Eastern factions, the West continues stubbornly to provide a safe harbor for Easterners among them.

Question:

How do we in the West expect to 'win' this war?

Does anyone see where this is going? Anyone at all?

IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO WIN UNDER THE PC RULES OF ENGAGEMENT.

81 posted on 10/24/2001 10:28:41 PM PDT by Stallone
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To: Azarona Joel
are you saying that they are not coming for streisand and spieldberg?
83 posted on 10/24/2001 10:31:56 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: Azarona Joel
And no one believes me when I tell them almost everyone hates the Yankees.
101 posted on 10/24/2001 10:55:23 PM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: Azarona Joel
More food for thought...

1) terrorists cross border:
linked article

2) terrorists go for a hike:
linked article

3) SOMEBODY CHECK DEM HILLS!!!!
112 posted on 10/24/2001 11:22:56 PM PDT by freeasinbeer
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"mideastern men with " HEAVY ORANGE BACKPACKS"'

Yeah, right. And they were naked also. That, along with the pink, floppy Easter Bunny ears, will make indistinguishable from the average backpacker.

prambo

145 posted on 10/25/2001 8:29:31 AM PDT by prambo
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To: Azarona Joel
Duck and Cover


Nuclear air raid drills were part of everyday life for schoolchildren in the late 1940s and early '50s.
Children were taught to "duck and cover" under their desks and were herded into school basements for periodic air raid drills.
152 posted on 10/25/2001 9:10:25 AM PDT by BansheeBill
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To: Azarona Joel
I just thought of some possible symbolism:

Arizona Diamondbacks, owned by Jerry Colangelo, who also owns the Phoenix SUNS.

First anthrax case at a newspaper called The SUN.

Someone at FR told me that the Sun is important symbolically in Islam.

Oh, I almost forgot. I've seen a nuclear explosion referred to as a 'second SUN'.

Tinfoil for thought?

156 posted on 10/25/2001 12:44:22 PM PDT by TrappedInLiberalHell
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To: Azarona Joel
I don't consider this an imposibility, but even after Sept. 11, I would fall off my chair in shock if this happened.
160 posted on 10/25/2001 5:41:22 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: Azarona Joel
Yo, Joel--you must come here at once. Arrest in progress at Sky Harbor Airport.
161 posted on 10/25/2001 5:43:05 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: 4wvueers
Ping.... scary stuff! Sent article to my cousins in Phoenix!
178 posted on 10/26/2001 8:02:12 AM PDT by N8VTXNinWV
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To: Azarona Joel
You probably could use a lot more manpower for such a search. Might want to call J.D. Hayworth's office (believe that is the guy's name, the blond haired, big conservative guy) and see if you can get any assistance. Just an idea here but Believe contacting Hayworth may be a good one.
179 posted on 10/26/2001 10:12:19 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Azarona Joel
Joel don't pay any attention to these A-hole freepers. Trust your instincts, and go check it out. If I lived near there I'd go with you.
183 posted on 10/26/2001 11:12:35 AM PDT by Destructor
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To: Azarona Joel
We also have the Duralube 500 Race this weekend!

If anything happens to King Richard rednecks throughout the south are going to be hunting for a-rabs.

185 posted on 10/26/2001 11:21:14 AM PDT by aomagrat
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To: Azarona Joel
Any updates?
188 posted on 10/26/2001 10:34:42 PM PDT by walden
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To: hollywood
more stuff.
191 posted on 10/27/2001 12:25:24 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Azarona Joel
To those who mistakenly think they're living in Canada: We keep hearing that distrusting Muslim Americans isn't fair. However, nothing in our Constitution says the rights of citizens are unqualified. If you're not willing to defend the nation against its violent enemies, either in word or deed you are, quite rightly, asking for a long detention -for your own protection, of course.
194 posted on 10/27/2001 2:17:30 AM PDT by Havisham
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