Our Government is Worse Than Anthrax

LewRockwell.com ^ | October 18, 2001 | Steven Greenhut

[JohnGalt]

Bump...

We are all McCainacs now

[Kevin Curry]

Go somewhere where you can be free,like Afghanistan. All the hash and heroin you can pull through your nose or shove up your veins is waiting for yor in Kabul. No taxes, and no FBI to tell you "No." Heck, no organized police force to speak of.

No public libraries . . .

No public parks . . .

No public schools . . .

It's libertarian heaven, I tell ya'.

Ungrateful, spoiled, snivelling jackasses.

[DB]

Why do you live and participate in a "terrorist state"? You have a choice. I guess the fact that you continue to by choice makes you a terrorist as well.

[bond7]

Ya' know what? Yhis stuff sounds like a bunch of one-sided whining. I'd love to know the whole story of these property and children "incidents" that so incite you people.

While I have No DOUBT that poor decisions are sometimes made in property and custody issues. But for you to believe that there is a SYSTEMATIC and PERVASIVE campaign to unfairly take property and children away from the citizens of this country is just plain ignorance.

I'm 50 years old, deeply involved in business AND was a private investigator for 10 YEARS, working on some child custody cases along the way. They're ALL messy. They're ALL difficult. Guess what? It wasn't the government screwing it up! It was one or more family members screwing it up. The courts are trying to straighten out complex family issues every day. Do you think that it's easy to get in the middle of all that? Use your brains, please!

[George W. Bush]

People don't comprehend the magnitude of the Workforce Investment Act until it is explained like this.
Your Child’s future from the Cradle to The Grave is being Decided by Hillary's' Human Resources Development Plan for the United States. Is that ok with you?
It goes like this.
We need more dish washers. Set the curriculum up for more dish washers.

It is a sinister law. However, based on my own long experience in the education wars, these things have a way of getting watered down over the course of time or having state boards and legislatures slowly corrupt them. It's actually less disturbing for what it has done than that it provides the legal machinery for the system to move in an undesired direction.

Quite often, schools that actually pursue these policies will see their best students pulled out and sent to private schools or homeschooled, leaving them to decide if the remainder need to be educated for being janitors or fast-food drones or telemarketers.

In many respects, this law has perverse consequences never intended by the socialists who implemented it.

Your anecdote about the Nazi law and the EcoDev person is actually pretty common. They're always alarmed when any of us confront them with these facts. I suggest that anyone who has an opportunity to expose these people to the local sheeple at public meetings should do so.

Keep stirring the pot. We can still win. And some of the plans of the socialists will help us defeat them in the end.

[Boonie Rat]

By the way, the President has filed the apropriate papers formally notifying Congress of military action, as required by law.

Where is that in the Constitution?

Boonie Rat

MACV SOCOM, PhuBai/Hue '65-66

[mom of 2 GOP kids]

Do you honestly believe that the Iraqi government has not had it within their power to feed its citizens?

Exactly. How in the world did the country of Iraq survive all these eons before the U.S.A. came to being? Who fed them then? These countries have been living in caves for thousands of years, and they still are. They hate the fact we are civilized and they have an inferiority complex. Call it "penis envy" if you will. Of course the alternative theory is that their "food stamps" have been "embargoed" and they are P.O'd. You know how these guys hate it when their "entitlements" have been taken away and they actually have to do something to take care of themselves.

[bond7]

Where is that in the Constitution?

It doesn't have to be spelled out in the Constitution to be a law.

[Fighting Falcons]

Unlike you Bootlickers I fight to restore our Constitutional Republic to its rightful moorings.

[Fighting Falcons]

EVERY LAW must be written to conform to the Constitution, it is the Supreme Law of OUR Land.

Are you just pretending to be this stupid to aggitate people?

[max61]

So do you need a formal piece of paper to know we are at war, or is the rubble at the WTC, the 6,000 people dead, the bombs falling in Afghanistan, and the anthrax going to do it for ya'?

In this nation, war begins when Congress declares it; not when the President announces a new initiative or something tragic happens.

Please let us all know what the HR number is that is the Presidents current request for a declaration of war against whoever. The President has not requested Congress for a declaration of war. Why is it OK for a Republican President to avoid and subvert the Constitution, but not a Democrat?.

By the way, the President has filed the apropriate papers formally notifying Congress of military action, as required by law.

So in other words, we have yet another war that's really not a war. Shall we call this one a conflict, police action or rescue mission?. Or are we protecting our interests?. Which one please.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss...

---max

[slhill]

That maybe so, but I'm betting you're not nearly as scared of your government as the average Iraqi is of theirs. Or Iranian. Or Syrian, Lebanese, Egyptian, Afghan, Russian, Ukrainian, Algerian, etc etc. That sort of comment reminds me of the one about how awful the Israelis are. To which the reply is: and when did you last protest the persecution of Maronite Christians in Syria or hold a remembrance vigil for the 20,000 or so Palestinians massacred by the Jordanian government in 1970?

[Boonie Rat]

ANYTHING contrary to the Constitution is not law from its inception, not from its finding of being unconstitutional. There is no way for this Republic to declare war other than constitutionally, by the Congress. Any other way, like "filing the papers", is unlawful and not a war.

Boonie Rat

MACV SOCOM, PhuBai/Hue '65-'66

[riley1992]

In the above first sentence, I'm assuming you meant "healthy dose of fear OF."

Yes, you know me well enough to know that's what I meant.

What I can't fathom is how so many conservatives and libertarians can hold the above sentiment, and yet still feel that the FEDS are somehow in the right for withholding whatever evidence that they have that justifies bombing Afghanistan

I never said they should withhold any evidence.

If so, then you must agree with bin Laden that civilians can be held responsible for the actions of their government. After all, that's his justification for terrorism, isn't it?

In Iraq, you are speaking of withholding food and if all these children are dying in the droves they claim they are, the Iraqi government has the power and the resources to feed them. In Afghanastan, we are not specifically and directly targeting civilians in this campaign which is exactly what bin Laden did here. So yes, there is a difference.

[steve-b]

Ungrateful, spoiled, snivelling jackass

Er, it's not necessary to sign your post manually. The software does it for you.

[Fighting Falcons]

Hell, I don't agree at all that the sanctions we put on Iraq is the cause of their starving. Even if we removed the sanctions and had nothing at all to do with Iraq their children would still be starving.

[bond7]

EVERY LAW must be written to conform to the Constitution, it is the Supreme Law of OUR Land.

It goes without saying that 99.9% of our laws extend from the interpretation of the Constitution. That is actually the beauty of the document. It sets forth the basic principles, and we must do the rest for many hundreds of years.