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Jets' Robinson Faces Weapons Charge
ESPN.com | 10-16-01 | A.P.

Posted on 10/16/2001 8:19:14 AM PDT by kjam22

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To: 1Old Pro
Talk about excessively going overboard. Sheesh, rapists and murderers get less time in jail.

Probably thanks to the NRA's Project Exile too!

41 posted on 10/16/2001 12:18:11 PM PDT by TexRef
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To: kjam22
Police found a Bushmaster .223 assault rifle, three high-capacity magazines that hold 30 rounds each, and two boxes of ammunition containing 100 rounds each.

Well, he does have excellent taste in weaponry, anyway :)

42 posted on 10/16/2001 12:26:46 PM PDT by Jefferson Adams
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To: kjam22
A Bushmaster? Good on you Robinson. It's a shame our police and criminal justice system are wasting valuable resources on an otherwise law abiding American. Did he threaten to shoot anyone? Did he hi-jack a plane? If not, what's the big deal?
43 posted on 10/16/2001 12:27:32 PM PDT by arm958
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To: DoctorHydrocal
At least Robinson has good taste in weapons.

Oh boogers, you beat me...

44 posted on 10/16/2001 12:27:54 PM PDT by Jefferson Adams
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To: Henry F. Bowman
Not "assault rifle," but "Sport-Utility Rifle"!

LOL - well put!

45 posted on 10/16/2001 12:29:12 PM PDT by Jefferson Adams
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To: arm958
Did he threaten to shoot anyone? Did he hi-jack a plane? If not, what's the big deal?

If you think this shouldn't be a big deal (and it shouldn't, but it is) even in light of the type of rifle and full capacity mags, think about this to really get you ticked: In NJ, even if the rifle is legal (even a single shot, bolt action) and even if he had no ammo or any mag whatsoever, and he had the gun in a locked case, he could still be nailed anyway since you're not allowed to transport any firearm unless you're moving, or going to or from a range, gunsmith, or competition. And you can't make any deviations in your journey. Stopping off for a football game doesn't appear to count as permissible.
N.J.S.A. 2C:39-6(2)(e).Nothing in subsections b., c. and d. of N.J.S.2C:39-5 shall be construed to prevent a person keeping or carrying about his place of business, residence, premises or other land owned or possessed by him, any firearm, or from carrying the same, in the manner specified in subsection g. of this section, from any place of purchase to his residence or place of business, between his dwelling and his place of business, between one place of business or residence and another when moving, or between his dwelling or place of business and place where such firearms are repaired, for the purpose of repair. For the purposes of this section, a place of business shall be deemed to be a fixed location.

g.All weapons being transported under paragraph (2) of subsection b., subsection e., or paragraph (1) or (3) of subsection f. of this section shall be carried unloaded and contained in a closed and fastened case, gunbox, securely tied package, or locked in the trunk of the automobile in which it is being transported, and in the course of travel shall include only such deviations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances.

46 posted on 10/16/2001 12:58:57 PM PDT by grady
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To: grady
What a crock! Can you imagine these types of restrictions on the first amendment?
47 posted on 10/16/2001 1:11:45 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
So now we know: bomb sniffing dogs are also gun sniffing dogs.

yeah, they sniff for nitrates.

And now we are entering the "anti-terrorism highway checkpoint" phase of American history.

That is a fact

Guess who is going to go down for the weapons found? "Right wing gun nuts" like you and me.

At least here in the People's Republic of Connecticut that will not be a problem as I maintain my pistol permit and that entitles me to transport pistols and long guns in a manner that does not alarm the public. Of course getting accross state lines to another state brings up some very unpleasent questions.

We all know where this is going. Maybe I should get back to writing my RKBA novel, it looks like we will be next on the target list.

Hey the leftists would rather get the right wing Americans who believe in the Right to Keep and Bear arms tan fight OBL, al Qaeda and the Taliban.

Woek on your book it will be needed.

Sttay well - stay safe - stay armed - Yorktown

48 posted on 10/16/2001 1:15:31 PM PDT by harpseal
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To: kjam22
now if he played for a calif. team, we wouldn't have such radical behavior!

maybe he was going to carry the rivalry between the jets and dolphins a bit further?

'happiness, is a warm (bang bang shoot shoot) gun!!!!!!!!!

49 posted on 10/16/2001 1:18:30 PM PDT by rockfish59
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To: grady
"If you think this shouldn't be a big deal (and it shouldn't, but it is) even in light of the type of rifle and full capacity mags, think about this to really get you ticked: In NJ, even if the rifle is legal (even a single shot, bolt action) and even if he had no ammo or any mag whatsoever, and he had the gun in a locked case, he could still be nailed anyway since you're not allowed to transport any firearm unless you're moving, or going to or from a range, gunsmith, or competition. And you can't make any deviations in your journey. Stopping off for a football game doesn't appear to count as permissible."

I knew I left New Jersey for a reason. I'm New Jersey born and raised, but then I discovered freedom (in Wyoming).

50 posted on 10/16/2001 1:33:09 PM PDT by arm958
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To: Travis McGee
Are you volunteering to stand down range and insult it while we plink at you with lowly .223?

is it a choice between that and a deer-rifle? Or between that and nothing? Point is that while "assault rifles" are blasted as being near-omnipotent death-machines, they are at the lower end of the rifle rounds...but I know that you know that.

51 posted on 10/16/2001 1:35:25 PM PDT by lepton
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To: kjam22
And I personally know people who carry and conceal that shouldn't because they are just stupid.....

there are those...and they're still very very low on the criminality list.

52 posted on 10/16/2001 1:37:12 PM PDT by lepton
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To: Grampa Dave
Other wise how did the cops know what car to search of the thousands parked that night at the stadium!

Just walking the lot with a trained dog, looking for bombs and such.

53 posted on 10/16/2001 1:38:44 PM PDT by lepton
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To: monkeyshine
There is a lot of irony in this. If you are caught carrying concealed without a permit, you will be arrested and likely prosecuted. If, however, you carry concealed without a permit and stop a murder with your weapon, you will likely be released and never prosecuted.

In NYC, at least up until the early 1990s, it would add about a year and a half to your sentence if you were caught carrying a firearm but failed to murder someone with it.

54 posted on 10/16/2001 1:41:35 PM PDT by lepton
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To: Grampa Dave
More than likely, Damien Robinson, is a conservative black, and he got turned in by some left winger who knew that he carried this self protection! Other wise how did the cops know what car to search of the thousands parked that night at the stadium!

The article states that he was entering the parking lot at 10:00 AM; along with others that were searched.

55 posted on 10/16/2001 1:42:51 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: Grampa Dave
Sound like a good reason to drop loose rounds here and there.
56 posted on 10/16/2001 2:03:23 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: lepton
Point is that while "assault rifles" are blasted as being near-omnipotent death-machines, they are at the lower end of the rifle rounds...but I know that you know that.

Can't say I necessarily agree with you on this one, lepton. At 3,200 fps, I don't think you could call even a small caliber like a .223 "lower end" when it comes to the terminal results. Here's what Duncan Long has to say:
And the .308 does have a lot more energy than the .223. But there's more to effectiveness than kinetic energy. In terms of fight-stopping power, the .223 is usually equal or (with FMJ bullets) better. How can this be? The edge the .223 bullet has occurs with the 1-in-7 twist; the .223 bullet is torqued so much that it shatters on impact. The "pig tests" done by the US military proved the .223 (5.56mm) projectile so superior to the 7.62 in this respect that most segments of the Army lost all interest in the .308 for anything but sniper rifles. Thus the switch to the .223 for the SAW and the Marines adoption of the H-BAR version of the Colt. When a bullet shatters inside a human (or pig) target, it has greater wounding effect than a mushrooming bullet with each fragment creating a wound channel all its own. Sort of like a super-duper Glaser. The .223 fired from a modern (1-in-7 twist) rifle will make a tiny entry wound, but inside you have a mess that is greater than a .308 will produce (with human beings).

57 posted on 10/16/2001 2:06:37 PM PDT by grady
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To: harpseal
Yeah, after a one month stoppage, I think I will.

I am going to change the NFL stadium shooting to a shooting at a major civil rights rally by an "oppressed peace loving moderate religion".

The (bogus) "right wing militia kook's" motive will be even more clear, the "gun check road check points" will be even more realistic.

58 posted on 10/16/2001 2:10:12 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
Define loose rounds and here and there!

That incidence shook up a lot of construction workers who worked at refineries!

A friend has a son, who is a police officer. He went to the range for his continual qualifications. Came home showered and went to his local airport to board a plane to go on vacation.

This was before the 9/11 thing. This young man had a baseball hat on and a moustashe. That sets off a profile. They took his carry on and ran swabs on it. That picked up the residual gun powder even after his showering. They had him over in a private area and cops were called in. Two of the cops were fellow cops, and they started laughing as they jokingly handcuffed him. Then they explained what had happened as they were on the range with him. They were covered with the unseen residue! Then the young cop finally got on his plane!

Talk about screwed up profiling!

59 posted on 10/16/2001 2:12:41 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: lepton
Sure, we both agree on that.

Still, if I have to go for a long fight with no chance of resupply, I'd rather take 390 rounds of 5.56 in four mag pouches, (13x30), than 180 rounds of 7.62, (9X20) in the same space at the same weight. IOW, you can carry double the ammo in 5.56.

60 posted on 10/16/2001 2:14:42 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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