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Planned parenthood lies again, my title, WND's is: Abortion Rights Group Gets Suspicious Letters
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Posted on 10/16/2001 7:50:26 AM PDT by Alas

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To: Alas
Well, I frankly don't know what Planned Parenthood is worried about. It seems to me that if it were anthrax, they'd take the opportunity to see if it could be used as an effective abortifacient. Hmmm, anthrax abortions? It's gold, Gloria, run with it!

Oh and my thoughts go out to the people at Planned Parenthood who must be extremely upset that the baby in New York who contracted anthrax looks like he's going to make it. It must have been a terrible disappointment.

21 posted on 10/16/2001 8:25:56 AM PDT by helmsman
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To: TomB
I hate to burst your bubble, but one of the offices in my town was hit, and it is only a few doors down from mine.

How long was the clinic shut down by the Hazmat crews?

22 posted on 10/16/2001 8:28:44 AM PDT by tuesday afternoon
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To: Rodney King
Hillary herself was quite quick to try to use these events to push the "vast right wing conspiracy" out to get her again. I think the feminists definitely would pull a hoax like this.
23 posted on 10/16/2001 8:28:50 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Alas
Would you handle a piece of paper supposedly coated with anthrax in order to run a xerox copy of it? That is exactly the kind of thing that you shouldn't do. You should immediately put it down and DON'T TOUCH IT ANYMORE and let the authorities come and get it.
24 posted on 10/16/2001 8:29:55 AM PDT by alnick
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To: okie01
"Er, how do you know that the "Army of God" is not al-Qaeda?

Get real. The "Army of God" (gotta love the names these religious right-wing wackos come up with) has been around for a while and has been terrorizing women and reproductive health care providers for some time now.

They and other groups like them have used the anthrax threats in the past. They are a sick bunch:

From the Army of God web site:

Quote of the week:

I'm an abortionist-bomber, that's what I do.

25 posted on 10/16/2001 8:29:59 AM PDT by 2020x100
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To: 2020x100
reproductive health care providers

Nice euphemism for "people who dismember babies for a living, and make a nice piece of change selling the parts on the side".

26 posted on 10/16/2001 8:35:18 AM PDT by Campion
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To: tuesday afternoon
How long was the clinic shut down by the Hazmat crews?

The letter got there early afternoon, and things seemed to be shut down the rest of the day. I don't know how long the building was shut down, but they did intend on opening again this morning. I'll drive by it on the way back to work and see, if it is that important to you.

27 posted on 10/16/2001 8:35:31 AM PDT by TomB
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To: alnick; Alas
I wonder how the patients reacted when Hazmat showed up.
28 posted on 10/16/2001 8:36:26 AM PDT by tuesday afternoon
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To: Alas
The PeePees rely to a large extent on donations. There was an article in a local paper yesterday which said that charities unconnected to the recent collection campaigns have seen a dramatic drop in donations since 9/11. What to do? What to do?
29 posted on 10/16/2001 8:37:31 AM PDT by Revolting cat!
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To: Rodney King
Rod, I wouldn't put it past someone looking to gain sympathy for PP to do this. The only reason for my post is to point out that the idea that there were no letters is simply wrong. Otherwise, I don't think anyone is above suspicion right now.
30 posted on 10/16/2001 8:38:56 AM PDT by TomB
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To: TomB
Oh, I agree. If I got one I would not run it through the copy machine.
31 posted on 10/16/2001 8:41:02 AM PDT by Rodney King
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To: TomB
I heard Judith Miller say she and 30 employees were put on preventative antibiotics after she got her suspicious letter. They are still waiting final test results (inital tests were negative). I wonder if all the clinic patients have to be treated?

She also said that area of the newsroom was still closed down. Who determines that, I wonder?

32 posted on 10/16/2001 8:42:49 AM PDT by tuesday afternoon
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To: Cu Roi
The reason some people are questioning this is because it doesn't fit the pattern of the other targets of the attacks. Major buildings, government offices, major media. All designed to get the maximum coverage in the news (look at how NBC is fixated on the antrax found in their office). Somehow planned parent clinic or office doesn't fit that pattern (a hospital would, but a clinic?)

The other reason is the radical fringe left (I'm not talking about liberals in general, but the far left fringe) have a history of faking incidents making them appear as victims. False campus rapes, false reports of racial slurs written on doors, false reports of gay bashing, you can do an search engine search and find a pretty big list.

Of course, it is possible that someone on the fringe right (again, I'm not talking about conservatives in general, but the fringe that both sides have to deal with) may be sending these also.

I think it is most likely someone on one of the two fringe groups (left or right) is sending these.

33 posted on 10/16/2001 8:43:03 AM PDT by Brookhaven
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To: Alas
considering the recipients of all these "alleged" anthrax letters, it looks like "crazy right-wing extremists" are being set up as the perps.
34 posted on 10/16/2001 8:43:48 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: Campion
"Pro-Life"

Nice euphemism for people who bomb buildings and kill doctors.

35 posted on 10/16/2001 8:46:13 AM PDT by 2020x100
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To: uncitizen
considering the recipients of all these "alleged" anthrax letters, it looks like "crazy right-wing extremists" are being set up as the perps.

It not the first time "crazy right-wing extremists" have used anthrax threats:

February 25, 1999

"(New York, NY) At the request of attorneys for Planned Parenthood and other abortion providers, federal district judge Robert E. Jones issued a permanent injunction today enjoining and restraining the American Coalition of Life Activists, Advocates for Life Ministries and 12 individual defendants...

Today's injunction follows the February 2nd jury assessment of $107 million in damages against the defendants for illegal threats against the plaintiffs.

In his order, Judge Jones described the Wanted Posters and Nuremberg Files Web site, each as a "true threat to bodily harm, assault or kill one or more of the defendants." Judge Jones then went further, stating that from his own independent review of the evidence produced at trial, "the plaintiffs have proven by clear and convincing evidence" that each defendant acted "with specific intent and malice in a blatant and illegal communication of true threats to kill assault to do bodily harm to each of the plaintiffs and with the specific intent to interfere with or intimidate the plaintiffs from engaging in legal practices and procedures."

Wrote Judge Jones, "I totally reject the defendants' attempts to justify their actions as an expression of opinion or as a legitimate and lawful exercise of free speech in order to dissuade the plaintiffs from engaging in providing abortion services."

...The injunction from U.S. District Court in Oregon came in the wake of a rash of anthrax threats sent by mail to abortion providers and other organizations all over the country. "These anthrax letters, like the Wanted Posters and the Web site, pose a real threat to the peaceful functioning of our public democratic institutions," said Feldt. "These folks think that violence is the light and the way. It is time for everyone to stand together against anti-choice terrorism."

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/pressreleases/22599-injunction.html

36 posted on 10/16/2001 8:52:11 AM PDT by 2020x100
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To: okie01
But it could just as easily be a terrorist group, masquerading as something else, in an attempt to set Americans against each other.

This is what I have been thinking. These guys probably know the points of conflict in our society, they would certainly want to exploit them.

37 posted on 10/16/2001 8:53:55 AM PDT by ecurbh
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To: Brookhaven
I agree that it doesn't fit the pattern...we can probably rule out Muslim religious extremists here. Good point on false hate crimes as well.

I think it is most likely someone on one of the two fringe groups (left or right) is sending these.

It is possible that a leftist sympathizer would do this, but in the absence of information supporting this I generally take the direct approach. There are people who kill abortion providers. Therefore it is even more likely that there are lone individuals who are willing to scare them without doing any actual killing. Some guy living in his mother's basement probably got the idea from watching television.

We can also probably rule out PP itself, since a number of their places have been hit, not just a single target. I fear that a lot of people on both sides are going to try to take advantage of the current situation to terrorize others and to get their voices heard.

38 posted on 10/16/2001 8:56:15 AM PDT by Cu Roi
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To: AppyPappy
You are right...I don't trust Planned Parenthood! Until I see or hear clear documentation they have no credibility.
39 posted on 10/16/2001 8:58:06 AM PDT by blackbart1
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To: 2020x100
If "The Army of God" was behind this, we should be hearing from them soon, doncha think. After all, if they're going to sign their names to it in the letters, they should have no problem acknowledging it on their website and through press releases. Smells like a set-up to me, but we shall see. Can someone explain to me why letters mailed from five different states would all arrive on the same day -- unless there were tons more mailed that have yet to arrive?
40 posted on 10/16/2001 8:59:29 AM PDT by soccermom
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