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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers The Lost Orders of Antietam (9/13/1862)- Sep. 14th, 2003
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Posted on 09/14/2003 12:00:49 AM PDT by SAMWolf
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To: SAMWolf
Good read this morning, thanks SAM.
Spurred on by your thread, I headed out to surf the net.
I see that also mentioned as a suspect is a Henry Kyd Douglas along with Chilton.
What caught my eye this morning though was one of the supposed "founders" of the lost dispatch. He went on after the war to become president of Oregon State University.
So kind of like Valin's "Cliff Clavin, little known facts" I thought I'd share this tidbit with you for some Oregon history
An original copy was lost and then later found by soldiers of the 27th Indiana. One of the soldiers was First Sergeant John M. Bloss Link to story
Exerpt;
With little dissent, history has anointed Corporal (not Private as some have written) Mitchell as the finder of the Lost Order, and Bloss as a bystander. Vance and Hostetter are not mentioned. But because Bloss, Mitchell and Vance each played a role in seeing, retrieving, and forwarding the Lost Order, each must be credited as a finder. Who first saw the package is forever arguable and of little consequence to either the outcome, Lee's defeat at Antietam, or one of the most intriguing mysteries of the war, who lost it. To slight any of them would levy an historic disservice, but if one is allowed to be the most important finder, it would have to be Bloss.....
......Bloss was the best educated, most credible, and most apt to recognize their fortuitous coup. Seeing the envelope, the initial action, was pure chance. Picking it up and examining it, the next step, was logical, but really the inquisitiveness of bored soldiers. Reporting it up the chain of command, however, was the product of intelligence and initiative. Bloss was the regiment's only college graduate (Hanover) and eventually its most successful survivor. He rose from sergeant to captain and commanded Company F in 1864. Wounded at Winchester, Antietam, Chancellorsville and Resaca, he completed his term and was mustered out in October 1864. A career educator, he was a teacher, principal, Evansville superintendent of schools, Indiana State superintendent, and president of Oregon State University.
Short bio of Bloss
To: manna
Good morning manna.
To: The Mayor
Good morning Mayor and thanks for the coffee and the Paine quote .
To: stand watie
You read "Guns of the South"? Not so much an alternate history as it is science fiction but a fun read.
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posted on
09/14/2003 7:07:56 AM PDT
by
SAMWolf
(The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
To: E.G.C.
Good morning E.G.C. Turning into a nice day here.
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posted on
09/14/2003 7:08:53 AM PDT
by
SAMWolf
(The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
To: manna
Good Morning manna.
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posted on
09/14/2003 7:09:32 AM PDT
by
SAMWolf
(The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
To: The Mayor
Morning Mayor. Thansk for the coffee and the great quote today. It applies today as well as it did long ago.
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posted on
09/14/2003 7:10:40 AM PDT
by
SAMWolf
(The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
To: Valin
1965 "F-Troop" premiers F Troop just was more proof that American television could make fun of anything.
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posted on
09/14/2003 7:15:26 AM PDT
by
SAMWolf
(The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
To: snippy_about_it
Great job at uncovering "the rest of the story". Mostly the stories on the Lost Orders concentrate on who "lost' them. Thanks for the who "found" them story.
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posted on
09/14/2003 7:20:28 AM PDT
by
SAMWolf
(The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
To: snippy_about_it
Navy Heritage
I would speak to you of legacy, of heritage, of lore...
Of Bosn's pipes, and Seaman's stripes, and far exotic shores
Of cannon's blaze, and battle's haze 'cross sunset's brilliant hues
Of Jones' creed, and Perry's deeds and jackets dyed of blue
Of Decatur's triumphs at Tripoli, of Farragut's daring raid,
Of Gridley's bidding his Commodore's will on the Galleons of Manila Bay
Of Peary beneath the Northern Lights to stake his country's claim
Of Byrd's enduring Antarctica...of memories of the Maine
Of days that live in infamy, of the daunting sixth of June
Of boys who too soon became men, of men who died too soon
Of Corpsmen on a mountaintop, of Tarawa's crimson sand,
Of Kamikazes vicious toll to save a conquered land
Of Nautilus' historic jaunt beneath a sea of ice,
Of Thresher and her lesser fate...her grand and awful price
Of Mekong Delta's deadly plains and they who bear the scars...
Of men who dared to dream of flight - and danced amongst the stars
Of those who reigned a righteous storm across a desert's face,
Of ships called Stark and Iowa...of courage tinged with grace,
Of Cole, who answered duty's call to disregard her fears,
Of Ensigns shred to staunch the flow of blood and sweat and tears...
I would speak to you of legacy, of heritage, of lore,
But speak to you of destiny - and greatness yet in store
HM3 Daniel L. Henry
I found this for Bentfeather's Dragon Flies Lair Thread but I liked it so much I thought I'd post it at the Foxhole too.
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posted on
09/14/2003 7:36:15 AM PDT
by
SAMWolf
(The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
To: SAMWolf
Sam I love it. Brought me to tears. I think I'll send this to our Tarawa friends.
To: SAMWolf
EEEEk!
You'll need to top off soon if you want to remain in 'fighting trim'.
(Or be able to sleep tonight..)
It is truly odd that SO 191 ended up 'missing' so to speak.
I haven't dredged the rest of the thread yet, but it would be interesting to see if there indeed was a copy of the order made and if there was one received while a copy left the camp.
But I doubt that such an inquiry can be checked this far after the fact, and it sdeems to have escaped them at the time to look.
Wasn't it SOP to burn orders after receipt of them?
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posted on
09/14/2003 12:16:32 PM PDT
by
Darksheare
(One bad night of waking up somewhere new to me, and I'm forever labeled.)
To: Darksheare
No sure what SOP was, but it appears that there was no "logging" of receipt of the order.
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posted on
09/14/2003 12:26:50 PM PDT
by
SAMWolf
(The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
To: SAMWolf
That is truly strange.
Seems SOP was not followed as it should have been.
Hmm...
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posted on
09/14/2003 12:29:11 PM PDT
by
Darksheare
(One bad night of waking up somewhere new to me, and I'm forever labeled.)
To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; AntiJen; MistyCA; SpookBrat; PhilDragoo; All
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posted on
09/14/2003 2:25:10 PM PDT
by
Victoria Delsoul
(There aren't enough conservatives in CA to vote for Tom and still have him to win. That's a fact)
To: Victoria Delsoul
Good afternoon Victoria. Thanks for the prayer.
To: snippy_about_it
Hi Snippy. You're welcome.
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posted on
09/14/2003 2:40:46 PM PDT
by
Victoria Delsoul
(There aren't enough conservatives in CA to vote for Tom and still have him to win. That's a fact)
To: Victoria Delsoul
Good Afternoon Victoria. Thanks for posting the Sunday prayer for us.
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posted on
09/14/2003 2:47:42 PM PDT
by
SAMWolf
(The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
To: SAMWolf
Hi Sam. You're welcome.
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posted on
09/14/2003 3:05:18 PM PDT
by
Victoria Delsoul
(There aren't enough conservatives in CA to vote for Tom and still have him to win. That's a fact)
To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; LaDivaLoca; LindaSOG; MoJo2001; bentfeather; ...
Good Evening, Troops. Sarge is pulling another all-nighter at the Ops Center tonight, headed home around 0700 tomorrow.
Isabell has our attention, to say the least.
We've got heavy weather moving across Kentucky, Indiana, and Michigan at this hour, in a three-state watch zone.
And I'm following the exploits of my fellow Guardsmen in a dozen places across the pond.
Save some of this for me!
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posted on
09/14/2003 5:04:56 PM PDT
by
Old Sarge
(Serving You... on Operation Noble Eagle!)
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