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The FReeper Foxhole - Military Related News in Review - August 11th, 2003
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Posted on 08/11/2003 2:37:31 AM PDT by snippy_about_it

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To: SAMWolf
Didn't they retire the rest of that class afterwards because of concerns about the aluminum burning?
41 posted on 08/11/2003 9:46:51 AM PDT by Darksheare ("Liberals, fodder for the Dogs of War.")
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To: snippy_about_it
I would hope so, but still..
42 posted on 08/11/2003 9:47:30 AM PDT by Darksheare ("Liberals, fodder for the Dogs of War.")
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To: Colonel_Flagg
Was nearly desperate enough to try Darksheare's coffee this morning but managed to stop in time :)

You must have had a angel on your shoulder this morning, that was a close call!

43 posted on 08/11/2003 9:47:44 AM PDT by SAMWolf (For any remedy there is a misery.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
If you'd tried my coffee, you'd still be awake in two days.
Just ask snippy and Sam..
44 posted on 08/11/2003 9:48:59 AM PDT by Darksheare ("Liberals, fodder for the Dogs of War.")
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To: Johnny Gage
I had a plastic toy of the B-58 Hustler when I was a kid, It had a spring loaded "atamic bomb" you could fire. Very Un-PC toy today.




45 posted on 08/11/2003 9:51:15 AM PDT by SAMWolf (For any remedy there is a misery.)
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To: Darksheare
There are currently 11 x Type 42 Guided Missile Destroyers (DDG) whose primary role is to provide air defence for naval task group operations.

During the Falklands War, SHEFFIELD was hit by an Argentine Exocet missile which among other things disabled the fire fighting mains, and although the fires were put out she sank under tow several days later. COVENTRY was sunk by Argentine bombs during the same campaign. The oft repeated story about the loss of these ships due to the use of aluminum in their superstructures is a myth. As a result of these two losses, the remaining ships of the class were fitted with additional guns and countermeasures and a Phalanx CIWS.

Not sure about the myth part, sounds like an excuse to me.

46 posted on 08/11/2003 9:57:00 AM PDT by SAMWolf (For any remedy there is a misery.)
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To: SAMWolf
I dunno, aluminum burns rather well.
Had a campfire that was mostly aluminum once.
Rather hot, rather vicious to try and put out too.
It sounds like they're trying to downplay the danger.
47 posted on 08/11/2003 10:01:45 AM PDT by Darksheare ("Liberals, fodder for the Dogs of War.")
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48 posted on 08/11/2003 12:56:15 PM PDT by GailA (Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
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To: GailA
Thanks Gail. Those look like yummy apples and I'm ready for some fall weather to pick some!
49 posted on 08/11/2003 1:48:12 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)
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To: snippy_about_it
#50

Hey snippy are you having trouble with the web??
50 posted on 08/11/2003 2:11:46 PM PDT by Soaring Feather (Tell You later on.)
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To: bentfeather
Nope, but SAM is. Don't you have comcast too?
51 posted on 08/11/2003 2:19:13 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)
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To: snippy_about_it
No I don't have that. I have cable, Road Runner.
52 posted on 08/11/2003 3:38:01 PM PDT by Soaring Feather (You are going to be fantastic!!)
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To: bentfeather
Oh, I thought you were involved in the conversations SAM and Meek had about comcast cable, sorry, my mistake.
53 posted on 08/11/2003 3:44:17 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)
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To: snippy_about_it
No problem snippy!! :-)
54 posted on 08/11/2003 3:51:10 PM PDT by Soaring Feather (You are going to be fantastic!!)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf
B-2 drops 80 test bombs

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EDWARDS AIR FORCE BASE, Calif. -- A B-2 Spirit drops Joint Direct Attack Munitions separation test vehicles over Edwards in an earlier test. On Aug. 6, a B-2 dropped 80 inert JDAMs during a test to increase the B-2's operational capability. (Courtesy photo)

by 2nd Lt. Brooke Davis
Air Force Flight Test Center Public Affairs

8/8/2003 - EDWARDS AIR FORCE BASE, Calif. (AFPN) -- In an effort to increase the B-2 Spirit's operational capability, a test force here conducted an airborne release of 80 Joint Direct Attack Munitions separation test vehicles. The separation test vehicles are inert weapons used to collect data.

The Aug. 6 test was one of more than nine sorties flown as a build-up toward equipping the aircraft to carry and release up to 80 JDAMs on a single missions, according to Mark Burke, 419th Flight Test Squadron project manager. The purpose of the build-up approach is to reduce the risk of aircraft collision with the weapons, explained Burke.

"The overall objective of this program is to integrate the Smart Bomb Release Assembly and JDAM-82 into the B-2," said Burke. "This improved capability will allow the B-2 to carry 80 JDAMs."

The brains of the SBRA are the Smart Bomb Rack Controller and the Stores Management Operational Flight Program. This allows the weapons to be released at specific intervals, according to Burke. The JDAM-82, a 500-pound smart bomb, is able to communicate with the aircraft through a cable, instructing the weapon to strike a specific target.

The vehicles used during the drop are not considered smart weapons because target data will not be passed to the weapon, said Burke. Data collected from each sortie will be analyzed by the Air Force Seek Eagle Office at Eglin Air Force Base, Fla. Officials use this data to certify the safety of new weapons on aircraft, and the B-2 test program is required to have AFSEO clearance before progressing to the next release sortie.

"Once all of the data collected from the STV release is analyzed by AFSEO, the program will progress into the demo phase," said Burke. "The demo phase will be an end-to-end test that proves the capabilities of the SBRA and JDAM-82 weapons load."

The demo phase is a two-part mission that will be flown from Edwards to the Utah Testing and Training Range at Hill AFB, Utah, Burke explained.

The demo phase will mark the first demonstration of an airborne platform with the maximum amount of mass-precision capability achieved by the B-2 test program, according to Maj. William Power, 419th FLTS project pilot.

The first demo test, scheduled for late August, will be the released 32 inert JDAMs onto the JDAM complex, which is set up to represent an operational airfield. The final demo test, scheduled for September, will release 80 inert JDAM-82 weapons at once with the potential of striking 80 different targets on the JDAM complex.

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Due to budget constraints, the next sequence of tests will be conducted using members of the White House press corps who persist in framing their coverage of Operation Iraqi Freedom in terms of a "quagmire".


55 posted on 08/11/2003 7:31:13 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; AntiJen; MistyCA; SpookBrat; PhilDragoo; All
Evening friends! Thanks for the thread, Snippy.


click on the graphic

56 posted on 08/11/2003 8:06:59 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (Arnold represents the other California: entrepreneurial energy, wit and invention -- Mark Steyn)
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To: PhilDragoo
Thanks for the information on the B-2. However, looking at that face this late in the evening will likely result in my having nightmares tonight! ;)
57 posted on 08/11/2003 8:38:40 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Good Evening Victoria. Good song.
58 posted on 08/11/2003 8:39:10 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)
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To: snippy_about_it
Hey, there you are! :-)
59 posted on 08/11/2003 8:47:53 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (Arnold represents the other California: entrepreneurial energy, wit and invention -- Mark Steyn)
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To: All
Just an FYI-

SAM is having major computer problems and is busily trying to fix things. He'll be back to the Foxhole as soon as possible.

60 posted on 08/11/2003 9:23:03 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)
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