The FReeper Foxhole Remembers Captain Ken Pope - Liberation of Kuwait (2/27/91)

Thanks Light Speed. Interesting chain of events.

When Ballard found the Bismarck, he stated the upper superstructure damage was pretty bad but the Bismarck's hull showed little damage. So it looks like the theory the Crew scuttled her is preety good.

81 posted on 05/14/2003 8:21:14 PM PDT by SAMWolf ((A)bort (R)etry (S)acrifice to random Goddess????)

82 posted on 05/14/2003 8:32:12 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)

To: snippy_about_it

Good Night Snippy. See ya tomorrow.

83 posted on 05/14/2003 8:37:43 PM PDT by SAMWolf ((A)bort (R)etry (S)acrifice to random Goddess????)

84 posted on 05/14/2003 9:08:09 PM PDT by Soaring Feather (Getting Late SAM.)

To: bentfeather; snippy_about_it

Good Night Feather. Thanks for hanging around today. Snippy was getting bored I think.

85 posted on 05/14/2003 9:09:41 PM PDT by SAMWolf ((A)bort (R)etry (S)acrifice to random Goddess????)

The debate on Bismarck still continues ...a recent expedition with rov camera discovered several torpedo impacts..which did come later on..after Bismarck was basically an inactive hulk.

Tovey had to leave in King George V...Rodney had to go too..so the clean up was left to the torpedo.

The Brits are saying the Bismarck was going under anyway from the huge holes in her from the Torpedos..but also agree that the Germans had opened flood valves.

The documentary was on just recently..2 versions..a 2 hour and another 1 hour version.

The 1 hour version has more info on Germany's naval command and the problems with Staff and Hitler..coupled with operations at sea.

Hope you get to see these doc's SAM..the battle animation and real time film of Bismarck are incredible.

I believe I copied this to VHS somewhere..if in time you do not see it via your local PBS station..will dupe a copy for you...its a great study on the battle...the images are very haunting.

86 posted on 05/14/2003 9:12:08 PM PDT by Light Speed

You're most welcome SAM.

87 posted on 05/14/2003 9:24:20 PM PDT by Soaring Feather (Getting Late SAM.)

To: SAMWolf; AntiJen; snippy_about_it; E.G.C.

There are no American infidels at Safwan air base. Never.

At Safwan I did not come to negotiate. I came to tell the Iraqis what was expected of them if we continued our cessation of offensive operations.

From It Doesn't Take a Hero, General H. Norman Schwarzkopf with Peter Petre, Bantam, 1992. From my collection of big fat books; this Army one from the USNA grad. Go figure.

A team from the 1st Squadron, 4th U.S. Cavalry Regiment launches a TOW missile during recent training.

U.S. Army Photo By MSG Larry Lane

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The BGM-71 TOW wire-guided heavy anti-tank missile is produced by Raytheon Systems Company. The weapon is used in anti-armour, anti-bunker, anti-fortification and anti-amphibious landing roles. TOW is in service with over 40 armed forces and is integrated on over 15,000 ground, vehicle and helicopter platforms world-wide.

The TOW missile system has been in service since 1970. The TOW 2 system includes: TOW 2 (BGM-71D), with over 80,000 missiles delivered, no longer in production; TOW 2A (BGM-71E), which entered production in 1987 with over 118,000 missiles delivered; and TOW 2B (BGM-71F), which entered production in 1991 with over 40,000 missiles delivered. TOW 2B is designed to complement rather than replace TOW 2A and both missiles are operational with the US Army.

The missiles can be fired from the ground using a tripod-mounted launch tube or installed on vehicles.

88 posted on 05/14/2003 10:41:25 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)

89 posted on 05/15/2003 3:05:06 AM PDT by E.G.C.

To: SAMWolf; bentfeather

90 posted on 05/15/2003 5:24:59 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)

91 posted on 05/15/2003 5:25:43 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)

To: snippy_about_it

What's the matter snippy, need a lift today?

92 posted on 05/15/2003 5:27:38 AM PDT by Soaring Feather (They are coming to take us away ha ha!)

Thanks Light Speed. I'll have to keep an eye out for them. The last one I saw was the National Geographic one.

I've got some code books on th the Bismarck too. There's been a lot written about her.

93 posted on 05/15/2003 5:48:04 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Entropy isn't what it used to be.)

Morning PhilDragoo.

Had my machine hijacked by my daughter last night. Thanks for the really good shots of the Armor and for the info on the TOW System.

94 posted on 05/15/2003 5:51:22 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Entropy isn't what it used to be.)

To: snippy_about_it

95 posted on 05/15/2003 5:52:30 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Entropy isn't what it used to be.)

lol. I just now saw this. Sorry for being so late.

96 posted on 05/15/2003 8:02:34 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)

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