The FReeper Foxhole - Gulf War Syndrome: Fact vs. Fiction - Dec 9th, 2002

http://www.fumento.com/gwspro.html ^ | Michael Fumento

[MistyCA]

I agree. thanks for that post.

[MistyCA]

That is my question as well. Thanks for your post.

[editor-surveyor]

"Aspartame Disease is partially the cause to what is behind some of they mystery of the Dessert Storm health problems."

Uhh Doug, you know that you're not allowed to say that; they'll re-dub you as a tinfoil hat salesman (truth is the substance that tinfoil is smelted from).

Another angle is the military use of canola oil in food preparation. Canola oil is the base ingredient of mustard gas (also known as Rape oil).

To me it is a wonder that any of the guys came back normal.

[MistyCA]

Wow. Thanks for sharing that. It's an odd coincidence which I am very sorry you had to experience! I am sure it gives you pause, and unfortunately there is no way to know if the same thing would have happened in different circumstances. If there is a cause, I would hope our government would have the cahunas to step up to the plate and explain to you what happened.

[Fiddlstix]

You're welcome J
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[Lady Jag]

Psychological effects are proven to have a profound impact on one's health, but some of these vets are suffering miserably. And one thing that stops me from suspecting psychological causes is that many vets have the same physical symptoms. If whatever it is was caused by PTSD you'd see a variety of physical effects instead.

[MistyCA]

Good find and observation. It is well known that the chemical makeup of aspartame changes when subjected to sources of heat. You have to wonder how many cans of diet soda were left in the heat too long. But that isn't exclusive to the situation in the gulf. Thanks for the post.

[MistyCA]

Thanks so much, Valin! You Day in History posts are very much appreciated here! :))))

[vnix]

please stop sending me this stuff

[Gunrunner2]

People have been in the desert for thousands of years, with no problems.
The Brits fought wars there before, with no problems.
We have had a military presence in that area for decades, no problems.

My guess: "Cocktail" affect from mixing the pyro-pills we took with the DDT-based bug spray we practically bathed in.

I think about 90% of GWS cases can be explained through other medical causes, while the remaining 10% may have something to it. (Now, having said that, I have been fighting the VA for compensation for un-explained severe abdominal pains that stike every day. Symptoms appeared in late 94. No diagnosis, even though poked and prodded by the best. Tests out--and up--the yahoo. Can't find the "cause," just that every afternoon the pain strikes and sometimes--5 times thus far--the pain drops me to the floor. Currently trying to get GWS recognized in my VA claim. The VA is fighting this. I thought "they" were supposed to be on our side?)

[SAMWolf]

Have you tries going through the DAV to help?

Do You Need Help with a Claim for Benefits from the VA or Other Government Agencies?

[MistyCA]

I think when you look at those numbers you have to also consider that this is a far more litigious society then it ever was before. People are far more likely to look for a cause that can be blamed on "someone" then they use to be. And you have to consider news sources that promote the idea of these illnesses, and the psychological impact that has on people who believe they are showing symptoms. Certainly what they feel might be real, but you can get caught up in psychological progression of things rather than moving through it sometimes.

The other thing I think of is the fact that Americans go to Mexico and get the "trots" regularly if they drink the water. The Mexican people are use to the microbes and bacteria there and don't suffer the same consequence. Whenever we are subjected to a new environment we might be subject to "things" that we would have not experienced in our own environment. I personally think that much of this is something that can't be avoided and should be played down....not up. Medical assistance MUST be provided by our government, but I am reluctant to think we should be handing out more money (settlements) to people who experience these things. We are just far too willing to do that today!

[Gunrunner2]

No.
I've been working with the VFW located in the VA at Roanoke, VA.
I'll give the DAV a ring.
Thanks.
Gunrunner

[MistyCA]

LOL....I love it.

[SAMWolf]

You may also want to try AMVets

1-877-7AMVETS or amvets@amvets.org

[Gunrunner2]

Thanks.

[MistyCA]

Good point. My observation about psychological causes is more pronounced because of my recent experience with my mom having radiation treatment for advanced cancer. She also has dementia and when she went for her treatments she didn't even know on the way out of the door where she had been. We were told that she may have symptoms where included nausea and diarreah, etc. The radiation was pretty massive for advanced uterine cancer. That was a few years ago, btw. She had no symptoms that were adverse and I have always attributed that to the fact that she never worried about a thing! My sister, on the other hand, would get sick just walking through the door! Just an observation. :)

[MistyCA]

Sorry. Your name will be removed.

[MistyCA]

People have been in the desert for thousands of years, but they have been acclimated to that environment. Our soldiers have not been. :) JMO

[MistyCA]

I am sorry for what you are experiencing. I hope the cause is discovered and the right thing is done for you. IMO, all vets deserve the best medical care we can offer. They should be given at least the equivalent of what our congressional "leaders?" have.