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In the 10th Year of War, a Harder Army, a More Distant America (e - mail from my friend)
Politics Daily | 9/9/10 | David Wood

Posted on 09/21/2010 9:39:30 AM PDT by SMARTY

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To: Fiji Hill
General Pershing Pictures, Images and Photos

THAT is why, because it was not Politically Correct

21 posted on 09/21/2010 10:29:04 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Lord help our Armed Service members that they not become pawns in Hussein's quest to destroy America)
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To: CORedneck
For my money, the ‘disconnect’ betweem civilians and the military has NEVER fully healed.

Kerry, in his continuing flip-flop between milking his ‘military career’ (such as is was) and bashing the Military, when it suited his political career, did the civilian/military schism NO good.

If you remember, the ‘Swift Boat Vets’ yanked the bandage from THAT wound and America bled anew.

The Military is ONE US institution which tolerates NO wannabe’s and no impostors. They succeed or fail in full public view. Fortunately, OUR Military has continually acquitted itself honorably. That their image is less than golden it due to the ongoing Liberal campaign to foul and defame anything THEY cannot control or invalidate.

22 posted on 09/21/2010 10:30:59 AM PDT by SMARTY ("What luck for rulers that men do not think." Adolph Hitler)
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To: rlmorel
I don't even talk about my experiences with family and friends. I usually find something else to discuss. Very rarely will one ask about it, and then it's over a beer.

Believe it or not, I have tons of photo's from my travels over here that I'd like to share, but again, most can't relate to the experiences unless they've been here.

The Mrs. is a different story. She'll sit and listen because she's a captive audience.

23 posted on 09/21/2010 10:34:23 AM PDT by Sarajevo (You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: Fiji Hill

Less than 150 Americans died in the Moro war. It was a minor engagement compared to Iraq & Afghanistan.


24 posted on 09/21/2010 10:34:31 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: Little Bill

LOL, I never thought of it that way, but they sure don’t look happy, that’s for sure. I don’t know why, but I can just see Gunny walking up to the front door while guys pile out the back...:)


25 posted on 09/21/2010 10:34:55 AM PDT by rlmorel (Puritianism is the fear someone is having fun. Liberalism is the fear someone is being a capitalist.)
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To: panthermom
Yesterday while talking to my brother you could hear the mortars hitting...a lot more frequent lately, in the Green Zone.

Tell him to keep his head down and his body armor close. It's not gettng any better in that area.

26 posted on 09/21/2010 10:39:36 AM PDT by Sarajevo (You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: KC_Lion

When it comes to fighting Muslim terrorists, Pershing had the right idea!


27 posted on 09/21/2010 10:49:05 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: rlmorel

In 1966 my unit had a Northern Baptist Chaplin and we enlisted scum were Saved on Sunday Southern Baptists or Catholics. His favorite topic was why we should not contribute to the genetic improvement of the Vietnamese, during an infrequent four hour pass, or take pleasure thinking about it, Epic Fail.


28 posted on 09/21/2010 10:50:18 AM PDT by Little Bill (`-)
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To: Sarajevo

He is a contractor, he keeps going back and after a while I realized it was not for the money.


29 posted on 09/21/2010 11:09:46 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: SMARTY

The real disconnect is between the people who join the military — small town, blue collar Americans — and the political and economic elites in big cities. Living in a small town, I know dozens of people who have served and are serving. One of my neighbors lost a son in Iraq and her other son recently enlisted in the Army.

The heavy use of National Guard and Reserve troops means that there are tens of thousands of combat veterans who are regular members of society. They serve regular tours, then return to their civilian lives, much the same as conscripts would.

The idea of a brotherhood among those who have seen combat is certainly nothing new. I only have to think about my grandfather, who fought in WWI and even suffered burns from mustard gas, yet wanted to remain in the Army after the war. Even though he was in his 40s, he offered to enlist during WWII.


30 posted on 09/21/2010 11:10:35 AM PDT by MediaMole
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To: panthermom

“...nobody over here really comprehends is the absolute ruthlessness of what really goes on there...”

It’s interesting you’d say it that way. My father never talked a lot to anyone about his European tour. (’42-’45’)-however in later years, I asked and he told me a great deal.

As far as ‘ruthlessness’ is concerned, though he was deployed in some real ugly places, he was not brutal or violent.

The only time he looked ‘ruthless’ was when I asked him about Malmedy. He was in the neighborhood immediately after the fact and got this far-away, cold and hard look in his eye when he said: ‘The war started for me at Malmedy’. He had been at Normandy, fought in the hedgerows and by the time he reached Malmedy, he understood that he had to shoot-to-kill because he could NEVER be made a prisoner.

Americans are raised as Christians for whom it is a sin to kill. So, it took the murder of unarmed prisoners for many US soldiers to feel the war was going to be ‘ruthless’


31 posted on 09/21/2010 11:13:56 AM PDT by SMARTY ("What luck for rulers that men do not think." Adolph Hitler)
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To: Sarajevo

Your wife sounds like a good one. As a married person, we all find ourselves a captive once in a while...

When the time is right, an ear will present itself...:)

Thanks for your service!


32 posted on 09/21/2010 11:28:51 AM PDT by rlmorel (Puritianism is the fear someone is having fun. Liberalism is the fear someone is being a capitalist.)
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To: Little Bill

ROTFLMAO! I can just see THAT sermon!


33 posted on 09/21/2010 11:30:58 AM PDT by rlmorel (Puritianism is the fear someone is having fun. Liberalism is the fear someone is being a capitalist.)
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To: SMARTY; Little Bill
I venerate the Swift Boat Vets. They saved this country nearly singlehandedly from the scum that is John Kerry. They could have just sat at home, watched television, read the papers and groused about John F'n Kerry. Nobody would have thought less of them (and some definitely would have thought more of them!)

But they didn't.

They put their gear on, and got back to work. One of the highlights of my life was being able to spend several hours with these men outside Walter Reed Hospital in a crappy, sleeting, freezing March Friday night in 2007 before the Gathering of Eagles in Washington DC...

During the 2004 election, this was what I had on my car up here in Massachusetts:

I actually got the middle finger from a granny with a gray bun...a highlight of my life as well...:)

God bless those men, and all who served and serve (including YOU, Little Bill...:)

34 posted on 09/21/2010 11:41:36 AM PDT by rlmorel (Puritianism is the fear someone is having fun. Liberalism is the fear someone is being a capitalist.)
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To: SMARTY

We are not ruthless evil people, we see good, we strive to do good, even in the midst of ugliness.

Imagine going to your job everyday and when you get home, you are told, you really didn’t do anything. The strides you see first hand are negated by people who say you are the cause of the misery.

This BS, we support the troops but not the war is laughable.

I have been in situations where people have been talking about the WOT, I also get the e-mails and photos directly from the sources and it doesn’t matter, nobody wants to hear it, they’d rather hear if from CNN.

Really who is isolating who?


35 posted on 09/21/2010 11:49:05 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: rlmorel
The Swift Boat Vets basically, saved America and Kerry's ‘career’ got the swift kick (pardon the pun) he so richly deserved, the one he had been spoiling for, for decades and from which he has NEVER recovered.

He tried ONCE TOO OFTEN to run his BS game and the Swift Boat Vets weren't having it any more!!!

I especially like the idea that Liberals are having hell to pay re-writing the history of that fight without proper mention of the whole Kerry fiasco and the timely and effective action of the Swift Boat Vets.

God bless them!!

36 posted on 09/21/2010 11:52:30 AM PDT by SMARTY ("What luck for rulers that men do not think." Adolph Hitler)
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To: rlmorel
I remember awhile later I had the duty when we came out of the field. Our CO at the time was this big Black Dude, can't remember his name we had a lot of turn over, a real down to earth Guy, commenting on the fact of anticipation as we did a walk through the company area on a night walk.

If I posted his comments I would get tossed.

37 posted on 09/21/2010 11:57:48 AM PDT by Little Bill (`-)
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To: Little Bill
"...commenting on the fact of anticipation..."

Funny...I have no idea what you mean by this, but for some reason, I can nearly hear the words you cannot post...:)

38 posted on 09/21/2010 7:53:58 PM PDT by rlmorel (Puritianism is the fear someone is having fun. Liberalism is the fear someone is making money...)
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To: panthermom

I understand totally.


39 posted on 09/22/2010 3:40:51 AM PDT by Sarajevo (You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: rahbert
No more like a American Foreign Legion. Sad but that is the force best suited to fight these sorts of wars.
40 posted on 09/22/2010 8:18:31 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money. Lady Thatcher)
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