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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers the Assault on Attu (5/11-31/1943) - July 27th, 2005
World War Two Magazine | November 2003 | Lee F. Bartoletti

Posted on 07/26/2005 8:13:01 PM PDT by SAMWolf

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To: snippy_about_it
If I want a second job I'll have to find one a little more reasonable when it comes to hours.

I wish you didn't have to sacrifice like this to make a go of the Wild Bird Center. Just a suggestion but there are always companys (hospitals, insurance, law firms, etc.) that will "farm out" WP, flow sheets and data entry work. In most cases (if they like your hardware) you can work from home. Hope something breaks for you sweets . . .

101 posted on 07/27/2005 8:20:41 PM PDT by w_over_w (I'm thankful there's no "I" in work but there's a "me" in meatloaf.)
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To: SAMWolf
Hey Sam . . . I'm working on finances again this evening. If you're doing bills and POs maybe we could party together.

OHHHH! MYYYYY! I just crack myself up! 8^D

102 posted on 07/27/2005 8:26:47 PM PDT by w_over_w (I'm thankful there's no "I" in work but there's a "me" in meatloaf.)
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To: vox_PL
October 16 the National Public Holiday in Poland called John Paul II's Day

Good for Poland!! :-) Thanks for sharing the pictures with us.

103 posted on 07/27/2005 8:32:22 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Thank you. We're all refreshed and challenged by your unique point of view.)
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To: w_over_w

Party on dude!!

104 posted on 07/27/2005 8:34:18 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Thank you. We're all refreshed and challenged by your unique point of view.)
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To: w_over_w
I wish you didn't have to sacrifice like this to make a go of the Wild Bird Center.

Awww, don't worry. I just want to be able to keep myself in Starbucks! LOL. Seriously, it's all about health insurance really. It cost sooooo much when you have to pay for it yourself, and even then it to be able to afford it you have to carry really high deductibles. I'm an excellent typist, I'll look into it but I never believed those "work at home" ads.

(if they like your hardware)

Now why would that matter...oh, you mean that hardware.

105 posted on 07/27/2005 8:39:22 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: vox_PL

Great news and great pics, thanks. :-)


106 posted on 07/27/2005 8:40:01 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: SAMWolf
DUDE! Like . . . I don't think we can do bi-directional replication between our servers if . . . like . . . you're on MAC . . . ya know? Like aren't we partitioned? But HEY! Here's some blue tortilla chips . . .


107 posted on 07/27/2005 9:10:15 PM PDT by w_over_w (I'm thankful there's no "I" in work but there's a "me" in meatloaf.)
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To: snippy_about_it
Now why would that matter...oh, you mean that hardware.

Naughty girl . . . Sam's starting to rub off on you. But that's a good thing. ;-)

108 posted on 07/27/2005 9:12:20 PM PDT by w_over_w (I'm thankful there's no "I" in work but there's a "me" in meatloaf.)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; The Mayor; Professional Engineer; w_over_w; Valin; USMCBOMBGUY; PAR35; ...
The quartermaster general had intended that special winter clothing be issued to the troops participating in the invasion. But the order was rescinded because it was thought that the extra weight of winter uniforms might slow the men down.

. . .someone had blundered. . .

The party responsible for rescinding the order was recognized with a special one-gun salute in 1946.

When Colonel Earle went forward to see what was holding up the men, the Southern Force commander was killed by a sniper.

. . .what seems to be the dela--

In all further such instances it is now customary to send the least valuable military personnel to inspect:

The island of Attu measures only 35 miles by 15 miles and is a most inhospitable location on which to conduct military operations. The island is uniformly rocky and barren of trees, brush, or any other cover. The land rises steeply from the water's edge to heights of over 3,000 feet. The lowlands of the island are blanketed with muskeg, a type of bog up to 3 feet deep with a hard crust on top.

Attu is shrouded year round with fog that varies in density and can cover the island from the bays to the mountains, creating extreme overcast conditions that limit sunshine to a few days a year. The island normally receives 40 to 50 inches of rain a year, but that rain total accumulates from a constant misting rain that falls 5 or 6 days a week. The temperature during the assault on Attu averaged 25 to 37 degrees Fahrenheit, depending on elevation.

These were the conditions that awaited American soldiers when they arrived to drive the Japanese from the island.

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The planners realized from the beginning that the troops would suffer from the weather, but they reasoned that the entire operation to clear the 1,500 to 2,500 Japanese off Attu would take only 36 hours. This reasoning proved fatal during the course of the invasion. Attu's weather and terrain had a profound impact on the invasion's reception, medical, and combat operations.

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The real logistics failure of the campaign began as early as 12 May, when the first seven casualties from cold-weather injury arrived at the shore hospital. The hospital continued to receive additional cold-weather casualties every day until the conclusion of operations on 30 May. Four days after the anticipated conclusion of operations called for by the planners, the shore hospital received 191 cold-weather casualties.

These casualties were the result of logistics failures. Logisticians failed to ensure that soldiers were equipped with appropriate cold-weather equipment. Most soldiers were issued only normal field jackets, not parkas, and leather boots, not footwear suitable for snow. The island's snow and constant rain, coupled with freezing temperatures, ensured that the soldiers were never dry.

Many soldiers went ashore without their sleeping bags, since the plan was for the bags to follow in a day. Unfortunately, the logistics problems on the beaches ensured that only those supplies critical to the warfight, such as ammunition, flowed from the beaches. Supplies soldiers needed to warm or dry themselves stayed on the beaches. The result was many cases of frostbite and trenchfoot. Cold-weather injuries would account for 31 percent, or 1,200, of the 3,829 total casualties suffered on Attu.

PHOTOS PAGE ONE

THE CAPTURE OF ATTU 7TH INFANTRY DIVISION - 11-30 May 1943

The ACLU reminds you it's not nice to profile or slander the enemy with any term harsher than "militant".

Two Japanese officers, Toshiaki Mukai and Iwa Noda, held a competition of beheading Chinese. They denied the accusation as "imagination" but were confronted with the above evidence published in Tokyo Nicinichi Shimbun. They were executed in 1947 in Nanjing.

109 posted on 07/27/2005 9:37:17 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: w_over_w

LOL!


110 posted on 07/28/2005 2:17:47 AM PDT by SAMWolf (I'm not being rude. You're just insignificant.)
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To: PhilDragoo

Morning Phil Dragoo.

The Attu Operation had to have some of the worst "planning" of the war. Some of the decisions made don't even appear to have any common sense behind them. Once again the American fighting man came through despite the downright stupid decisions made by desk jockeys.


111 posted on 07/28/2005 2:26:58 AM PDT by SAMWolf (I'm not being rude. You're just insignificant.)
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To: PhilDragoo

BTTT!!!!!


112 posted on 07/28/2005 3:02:42 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: SAMWolf

SAM - I dont have reference material in front of me, but if my memory serves me correctly, the Chase & Middleton participated in several island invasions together. Thanks to your FIL for his service - he truely was in both wars.


113 posted on 07/28/2005 5:22:09 AM PDT by texianyankee
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To: PhilDragoo

Great photos at the link you provided Phil, thanks.


114 posted on 07/28/2005 9:55:55 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: SAMWolf
Once again the American fighting man came through despite the downright stupid decisions made by desk jockeys.

The American fighting man has powered through every adversity the enemy, the weather, the terrain, the bureacrat pantywaist pencilneck peckerwoods have thrown at him throughout the history of the Republic, fueled by God, America, motherhood, apple pie, freedom, faith, hope and welch:


115 posted on 07/28/2005 4:42:32 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: snippy_about_it
That goes to four pages; some astonishing stuff.

For the first half hour on this thread your fotki stuff red-exed--I assume it was a too-busy server as we've got broadband on this end.

"Only 36 hours"--[!]

What on earth were the troops to do if reality did not conform to the pipe dream of romeo echo mike foxtrotters?

Obviously the answer was to lose 1100 to the cold.

For reasons such as this epic disconnect this is a "war story that deserves to be told."

116 posted on 07/28/2005 4:48:38 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo

I saw all four pages, great stuff. REMF, yeah.

Fotki gets whacky sometimes but it always comes back.

We think Ollie reads our threads and that's how he gets his ideas for stories. :-)


117 posted on 07/28/2005 5:25:59 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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