The FReeper Foxhole Remembers the Battle of Rennell Island (1/29-30/1943) - June 9th, 2005

World War II Magazine | March 2000 | John Wukovits

[stand watie]

understood.

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[Professional Engineer]

Ah! The Eagle! Spent two months on that beautiful ship. Thats where you really learn seamanship.

I'll bet! I just read Master and Commander, and thoroughly enjoyed it. Mainly for the minutea of naval life, and the running of a sailing ship.

[Professional Engineer]

I had forgotten about that connection. Thanks for the picture.

[Professional Engineer]

Hiya Sam

[Professional Engineer]

Hi miss Feather

[Professional Engineer]

LuftSpankenTruppen recruit.

[alfa6]

Halsey was under pressure to relieve the 2nd Marine Division, weary from months of vicious combat with crack Japanese land forces on Guadalcanal.

Speasking of research being off, I was wondering about that line last night as well but was to busy to do anything but give a good morning bump.

Regards

alfa6 ;>}

[Aeronaut]

Hi Sam.

[Darksheare]

Cool.

[PAR35]

I just noticed a discrepancy in the displacement as well. This story shows 11,000+. The US Navy and DANFS both give 9300 tons.

That being said, I may have figured out the problem. The next USS Chicago - CA-136 (launched 1944) was larger, and is shown with a complement of 1,142 men. I suspect that someone lost track of their Chicagos when listing the crew size, although the displacement for the newer ship would have been somewhat heavier at about 13,000 tons and some change.

Here are the comparative stats:

(CA-29: dp. 9,300; l. 600'3"; b. 66'1"; dr. 16'8"; s. 32 k.; cpl. 621; a. 9 8", 4 5", 6 21" tt.; cl. Northampton)

(CA-136: displacement 13,600 tons; length 674 feet 11 inches; beam 70 feet 10 inches; draft 20 feet 6 inches; speed 33 knots; complement 1,142; armament 9 8-inch/55, 12 5-inch/38, 11 quadruple 40mm, 2 twin 40mm, 21 single 20mm; class Baltimore)

http://www.history.navy.mil/danfs/c7-list.htm

[SAMWolf]

Good job. Sometimes it's hard to find accurate data, modifications chnaged a lot of stats and I've found most sources use the "as built" stats. Plus like you pointed out, new ships with the same name can get confusing.

[colorado tanker]

"We make a mistake and somebody don't come home." Sgt. Stryker, Sands of Iwo Jima. (from memory)

[E.G.C.]

Microsoft has just announced that they are going to release 8 critical updates for Winwos, one of which will also involve the UNIX deal with Microsoft as well as one update for Microsoft Exchange and one for Microsoft Security Services.

Aslo the June version of the Malicious Software Removal Tool will be included with this update.

If you use Windows, be sure to watch for these updates on Tuesday.

[colorado tanker]

I agree with you about Halsey, Iris. I think he was one of the great commanders of WWII. What got him into trouble at Samar was what made him so good - his very aggressive style of warfighting, always taking the fight to the enemy. Boy, but when he made that mistake it was a whopper.

[colorado tanker]

I just read Master and Commander, and thoroughly enjoyed it.

Be careful, you might get hooked on the series, as I have.

[colorado tanker]

"LuftSpankenTruppen"

LOL! Ah, the days before feminazis and the Tailhook brigade.

[Iris7]

Master and Commander is very good.

By about #8 Maturin becomes something of a buffoon, taking pratfalls to advance the plot. There are still many excellent scenes and vivid evocation of images, but I fear O'Brian, who was in his eighties, became tired attempting to write the stories while he had time. On the other hand, the Aubrey - Maturin character and friendship development is well done. I will give no details, except that modern grossness, vileness, and nihilism have no part in it.

The technicals of running a square rig ship are accurate as far as I can tell. Sometimes I could follow the technical description all the way to the end - a triumph!! Lots of rushing about hollering "I understand this! Look! Look!"

If my long suffering wife didn't run and hide I would excitedly explain what the text meant. After an half hour on this one passage her eyes would glaze over. Looking back, she is a woman of rare forbearance.

[colorado tanker]

LOL! I bought a companion that explained most of the nautical terms and details about the Navy of the time, which helped this landlubber understand a lot.

I got to tour the ship used to shoot the movie in San Diego, at the maritime museum, which was cool.

[GailA]

This work thing leaves me to little time to FReep. It leaves me tired and in need of a nap when I get home.

[Professional Engineer]

If my long suffering wife didn't run and hide I would excitedly explain what the text meant. After an half hour on this one passage her eyes would glaze over. Looking back, she is a woman of rare forbearance.

I felt that same way in reading about the square rig operation details. Very interesting.

I've gotta say I have an extraordinary wife as well. She is a former Sailor, and having read several of the books in the series first, suggested I read them as well.