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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers the Winter War (11/1939 - 3/1940) - Mar. 24th, 2005
www.kaiku.com ^ | Robert K. Maddock, Jr. M.D.

Posted on 03/23/2005 10:24:01 PM PST by SAMWolf

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To: Professional Engineer

"tattoo, tattoo, 5 minutes to lights out."


81 posted on 03/24/2005 7:58:39 PM PST by msdrby (Freedom, by its nature, must be chosen and defended by its citizens.)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf

Good evenin guys...

Another busy day, a little work, alot of politics..


82 posted on 03/24/2005 8:24:06 PM PST by The Mayor ( The human spirit soars with hope when lifted by an encouraging word.)
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To: w_over_w

Evening w_over_w.

The reason the FInns sided with Germany in WWII was in part to regain the land they had to surrender.


83 posted on 03/24/2005 10:33:11 PM PST by SAMWolf (Liberal Rule #9 - Can't refute the message? Attack the messenger!)
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To: The Mayor

Night Mayor.

The interview went well today, now we'll see what kind of story she writes.


84 posted on 03/24/2005 10:34:15 PM PST by SAMWolf (Liberal Rule #9 - Can't refute the message? Attack the messenger!)
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To: archy
rotfl!

free dixie,sw

85 posted on 03/25/2005 8:36:36 AM PST by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: SAMWolf
Interesting thread. Once I saw a very good movie about this war. I think that It was titled just "The winter war".
86 posted on 03/25/2005 11:49:19 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: SAMWolf
"They found Soviet soldiers huddled around fires in -40° weather easy prey to sub-machine gun fire and grenades. Almost any wound was fatal."

In really cold weather a wound is nearly always curtains unless you can get to shelter. Notice the Finns had one part dead and two parts wounded amongst their casualties.

I think we can all agree that Marshal Mannerheim was a man of the Right. Notice the difference between Mannerheim and Josef Stalin, a man of the Left, and a Red. Mannerheim took care of his troops, and to the best of his ability never wasted them. Look at Stalin. Look at Adolf Hitler, Brown on the outside and Red on the inside. Those two wasted their men as if they were nothing, and they were nothing to Stalin and Hitler.

Never forgive, never forget.
87 posted on 03/26/2005 12:55:42 AM PST by Iris7 (A man said, "That's heroism." "No, that's Duty," replied Roy Benavides, Medal of Honor.)
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To: Iris7

Most dictators care only about retaining power and are willing to slaughter millions, even their own countrymen to retain it.


88 posted on 03/26/2005 3:25:39 AM PST by SAMWolf (Liberal Rule #9 - Can't refute the message? Attack the messenger!)
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To: SAMWolf

Hey,this was great article!It is accurate and self being Finn I appreciate it greatly!


89 posted on 06/24/2005 4:00:39 PM PDT by Halbarad
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To: Halbarad

Thanks, the Winter War is mostly overlooked in the US.

90 posted on 06/24/2005 4:07:27 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Why isn't there mouse-flavoured cat food?)
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To: archy

An interesting note about Finnish sniper simo hayha,
most of his 500 kills were with an iron sighted M-28
Mosin Nagant.
Brief Background On Simo Häyhä

Simo Hayha was born in 1906 or 1905 (there seems to be two dates of his birth depending on the reference materials) in Rautajärvi, Finland. The town was in the shadow of the Soviet Union and as was the case with many border areas, the home of Mr. Häyhä was lost to the Soviets in the spoils of the Winter War. Like many of the towns and villages of this region the area was rural, and Mr. Häyhä was what people here in the U.S. would call an outdoorsman spending much of his time outside letting his skills sharpen.

In 1925 Mr. Häyhä joined the Finnish Army for his one year of mandatory service. He must have been suited well for the Army in some regards as when he left he had achieved the rank of corporal. Later Simo Häyhä joined the Suojelskunta (Finnish Civil Guard) serving in his home district. The Civil Guard is a difficult organization to explain to those in America but putting the Civil Guard in US terms it is much like a very well trained National Guard Unit. Even this description is far from perfect but should suffice for the purposes of this article. After his initial service he was content to join the rest of the population for a peaceful existence; however, the USSR under the dictator Stalin was to forever change the life of Mr. Häyhä and all of Finland with the Soviet invasion at the end of November 1939. This invasion was slated to be the end of Finland but in reality was just the opening of the Winter War, a war in which against all odds Finland remained free. While known before the war as a skilled marksman, Simo Häyhä was known more for his quiet disposition and good nature. While an expert marksman he was not a man of war but a man of peace that enjoyed the simple life around him



Simo Häyhä During The Winter War

Simo Häyhä was called into action during the Winter War with his service under the 6th Company of JR 34 on the Kollaa River. The Finnish stand at Kollaa is often referred to as "The miracle of Kollaa," as the Finnish action here was most heroic. The Finnish forces in the region were under the command of Major General Uiluo Tuompo and they faced the 9th and 14th Soviet Armies. At one point the Finns at Kollaa were facing 12 divisions, some 160,000 men. The Red Army losses in this arena were staggering as the brave Finns took their toll on the communist invaders. There have been those that called the Finnish defense of this key region "fanatical", and it was in the Kollaa area were the famous battle of "Killer Hill" took place with 32 Finns battling 4,000 Soviet soldiers. These were the hunting grounds of Simo Häyhä and it should be noted that even against massive odds the Kollaa positions were still in Finnish hands at the end of the war (March 1940).



Many remember Simo Häyhä only as using the Mosin Nagant M28 rifle with open sights and only credit his high kill total to his role as a sniper; however, this is not entirely correct as Häyhä was also an expert with the Suomi K31 SMG and a large number of the Soviets that he felled were from his K31. Above are examples of the tools of Simo Häyhä in his hunts in Kollaa.

Mr. Häyhä was credited with over 500 kills in his service during the Winter War with his service cut short as he was wounded on 3-6-40 by a Soviet sniper. Simo was shot in the face with what turned out to be an exploding bullet and he was taken out of action due to these wounds. The total time that Simo Häyhä served in the Winter War was 100 days with about 500 kills credited to him. His record is truly remarkable and is long since remembered in the nation of Finland.

In times of trouble it is often the quiet men that rise to greatness. This was indeed the case of the Finnish hero Simo Häyhä, who served on the horrendous Kollaa front in the Winter War of 1939-1940. The Finnish exploits on this front are known widely today as "The Miracle Of Kollaa" where the Finnish Army Infantry 34th Regiment’s 6th company overcame colossal odds against their survival. They did not just endure as they gave the Red Army invaders a fight that will forever be remembered. The Finnish lines continued to exist till the end of the War, being a true testament to the nation of Finland and the Finns that held the area. Simo Häyhä was a symbol of this front and he represents the true meaning of the word sisu - loosely translates to "Guts" in English.

From www.mosinnagant.net

I have several of these Finns, M-91s, M-27s, etc.
and they are the very best of the Nagants, with the
M-39 being the last evolution of their design, infact
Finnish forces today train using sniper rifles with these same actions.


91 posted on 06/24/2005 4:48:32 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: SAMWolf

May be in USA,it has been forgotten nowadays.But Winter War was pretty well covered in US-media in those days and it was noticed in puplic,which meant very much to Finns and I think many Finns are very grateful to you even today.


92 posted on 06/24/2005 4:50:46 PM PDT by Halbarad
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To: Halbarad

I believe Finland is the only country in the world that paid back its war loans. You have to respect that. :-)

Sadly in the US we don't even teach much of our history anymore.


93 posted on 06/24/2005 6:07:50 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Why isn't there mouse-flavoured cat food?)
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