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The FReeper Foxhole's TreadHead Tuesday - British Chieftain and Challenger MBT - Dec 7th, 2004
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Posted on 12/07/2004 12:10:32 AM PST by SAMWolf

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To: stand watie

Morning stand watie.

Free Dixie!


41 posted on 12/07/2004 10:35:02 AM PST by SAMWolf (I wired my dryer backwards, now it spits out extra socks.)
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To: bedolido
from our boys as they send you there.... "Burn in Hell"

Amen to that.


42 posted on 12/07/2004 10:37:03 AM PST by SAMWolf (I wired my dryer backwards, now it spits out extra socks.)
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To: StarCMC

Thanks, StarCMC.


43 posted on 12/07/2004 10:37:54 AM PST by SAMWolf (I wired my dryer backwards, now it spits out extra socks.)
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To: Grzegorz 246
Morning Grzegorz 246


44 posted on 12/07/2004 10:40:22 AM PST by SAMWolf (I wired my dryer backwards, now it spits out extra socks.)
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To: Aeronaut

Man! Tthe fusalage sure thins down between the cabin and the tail!


45 posted on 12/07/2004 10:41:34 AM PST by SAMWolf (I wired my dryer backwards, now it spits out extra socks.)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it
Good afternoon, folks.

In this morning's Daily Oklahoman, there was a letter in the opinion section who apparently wasn't happy with our choice to replace Don Nickles as our next US Senator.

I can tell you that had Brad Carson, The Democrat won our representation would have been very shoddy to say the least. What Oklahoma wants is someone who will work with everyone, not just those who vote for him or contribute to his political campaign.

The US Senate seats ar not for exclusive use to anyone political individual or group. This letter writer should remember that.

I think we the voters of Oklahoma made the right decision to send Tom Coburn to the Senate.

We picked up three-quaters of an inch or rain yesterday. we had to unplug the computer several times due to thunder and lightning.

There were some t-storm warnings issued for the Wichita Falls Texas area.

Our IE browser hung on us in our first trip to the Internet yesterday morning. We thankfully didn't have to reboot the computer but we did have to restart the IE broswer.

How's it going for you, Snippy?

46 posted on 12/07/2004 10:55:25 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: U S Army EOD
"A moving foxhole, attracts the eye".

Historically armor has required infantry support at all times. Infantryment I have talked to do not relish the memory of those times when they provided that support. Infiltration attacks by elite enemy troops and steady enemy mortar fire make for a long night. A short life and not a merry one. A miracle to survive such stuff.

Read once about a Sherman operation in Korea. American troops required replacement every day, but one unit stayed and got the job done for the three worst nights - a Legion Etranger outfit, almost all ex Waffen SS. They took 80% casualties without morale breaking down.

47 posted on 12/07/2004 11:04:44 AM PST by Iris7 (.....to protect the Constitution from all enemies, both foreign and domestic. Same bunch, anyway.)
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To: Valin
1970 Rube Goldberg, US cartoonist (Mike & Ike, Pulitzer 1948), dies at 87


48 posted on 12/07/2004 11:29:03 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Pulled up behind 'em, pulled out my pistol, and blew 'em away. ~ Chuck Brodsky, minstrel)
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To: SAMWolf

The Israelis are still using Centurion hulls and running gear, for example in the construction of "heavy APCs".

Good article on heavy apcs from "Armor" magazine:

http://www.knox.army.mil/center/ocoa/ArmorMag/ma01/2deployvssurvive01.pdf.

Centurion heavy apc "Nakpadon" page, excellent site:

http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/vehicles/engineer_vehicles/nakpadon/Nakpadon.html


49 posted on 12/07/2004 11:33:15 AM PST by Iris7 (.....to protect the Constitution from all enemies, both foreign and domestic. Same bunch, anyway.)
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To: E.G.C.

The Dims are still melting down about the election, aren't they?


50 posted on 12/07/2004 12:07:18 PM PST by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf
Happy anniversary, Sam and Snippy.

The Foxhole sure is fun for us military history geeks.

I got a kick out of the BBC article where the reporter was surprised the interior of a tank can be cramped and hot. Reporters can be so clueless.

51 posted on 12/07/2004 12:11:34 PM PST by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: SAMWolf
Your threads on the M-113 and on Tankettes and the endless desire for "deployability" brings back thoughts of the "light" tank. This 60 mm extreme velocity gun is supposed to be more than a match for T-55 armor even at long ranges.

There are thoughts and applications for M-113 armor improvement, this first in production and costing, they say, $75,000 (very cheap) while stopping 23 mm Russian Armor Piercing Capped, single charge shaped charges like RPG7 or Sagger, while adding only 2 tons.

The well known Blazer armor M-113 test vehicle,

52 posted on 12/07/2004 12:17:46 PM PST by Iris7 (.....to protect the Constitution from all enemies, both foreign and domestic. Same bunch, anyway.)
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To: colorado tanker
Yep, they're still grobbling.

I doubt whether they'll ever get over it.(LOL)

53 posted on 12/07/2004 12:51:52 PM PST by E.G.C.
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To: E.G.C.
Some of the liberal nutburgers in my neighborhood had to scrape off Sore/Loserman stickers to put on their SKerry stickers.
54 posted on 12/07/2004 1:11:35 PM PST by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: colorado tanker
Well, right here all of the political signs are down except for a couple.

Just typical behavior by the left leaving their signs out even though the election's over.(LOL)

55 posted on 12/07/2004 1:31:54 PM PST by E.G.C.
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To: SAMWolf

Today's classic warship, USS Baldwin (DD-624)

Gleaves class destroyer

Displacement. 1630 t.
Lenght. 348'3"
Beam. 36'1"
Draft. 17'5"
Speed. 35 k.
Complement. 276
Armament. 4 5", 6 .50cal mg, 10 21" tt.

USS Baldwin (DD 624) was launched 14 June 1942 by Seattle-Tacoma Shipbuilding Co., Seattle, Wash.; sponsored by Mrs. Ida E. Crawford, daughter of Acting Master's Mate Baldwin; commissioned 30 April 1943, Lieutenant Commander G. Knuepfer in command, and reported to the Atlantic Fleet.

Between 13 August 1943 and 25 January 1944 Baldwin made three trans-Atlantic convoy escort crossings to Casablanca, French Morocco. She also acted as a fire support, patrol, and escort vessel during the invasions of Normandy (5 June-15 July 1944) and southern France (13 August-25 September). She sustained slight damage from two small caliber shells off Normandy 6 June. Between 21 January and 27 February 1945 Baldwin escorted USS Quincy (CA-71) carrying President Roosevelt to the Yalta Conference.

Upon her return to the United States Baldwin carried out patrol and plane guard duties off the east coast until July 1945, when she departed for the Pacific. Between August 1945 and January 1946 she acted as flagship for the minesweeping operations off the Korea and China coasts.

Returning to the east coast in January 1946, Baldwin served with the Atlantic Fleet until placed out of commission in reserve at Charleston SC, 20 June 1946.

Though she had no further active service, Baldwin suffered a notable accident at sea in mid-April 1961, when she broke loose while under tow between Reserve Fleet facilities and went ashore off Montauk Point. Though refloated a few weeks later, she was not worth repairing. USS Baldwin was stricken from the Navy list at the beginning of June and scuttled at sea on 5 June 1961.

Baldwin received three battle stars for her World War II service.

56 posted on 12/07/2004 2:17:56 PM PST by aomagrat (Where weapons are not allowed, it is best to carry weapons.)
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To: Valin
Why is the rest of the Star Trek landing party wearing a different color?

Ensign Red Shirt! Run away!

57 posted on 12/07/2004 2:52:31 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Pulled up behind 'em, pulled out my pistol, and blew 'em away. ~ Chuck Brodsky, minstrel)
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To: SAMWolf

Nice, but they could place there something more Polish than castle in Malbork built by Teutonic Knights :)

http://www.zamek.malbork.pl/


58 posted on 12/07/2004 4:14:01 PM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: Iris7
Historically armor has required infantry support at all times.

Even with all the new technology, armor is still pretty much blind when it comes to seeing infantry waiting in ambush.

59 posted on 12/07/2004 4:31:21 PM PST by SAMWolf (I wired my dryer backwards, now it spits out extra socks.)
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To: Professional Engineer

LOL! I was wondering if anyone was gonna post a Rube Goldberg contraption.


60 posted on 12/07/2004 4:32:05 PM PST by SAMWolf (I wired my dryer backwards, now it spits out extra socks.)
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