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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers the Fetterman Masscre (12/21/1866) - Dec 1st, 2004
Wild West Magazine | December 1997 | B.F. McCune and Louis Hart

Posted on 11/30/2004 10:21:16 PM PST by SAMWolf

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To: GailA

Good morning Gail.


41 posted on 12/01/2004 11:29:21 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf

OKers!

Hi Sam!

I'll be back in a bit.


42 posted on 12/01/2004 11:29:42 AM PST by Darksheare (I have friends, and I have co-conspirators.)
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To: U S Army EOD
You don't think the Indians were confused and thought they were fighting the Japanese by any chance do you.

LOL.

43 posted on 12/01/2004 11:29:54 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: The Mayor

Amen. Good morning Mayor.


44 posted on 12/01/2004 11:30:37 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Professional Engineer

Cool. Thanks PE.


45 posted on 12/01/2004 11:31:53 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: bentfeather

Good morning feather.


46 posted on 12/01/2004 11:32:09 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Darksheare

Shipments, grrr.


47 posted on 12/01/2004 11:33:48 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: alfa6
When did snippy give you a raise, eh?

He's worth every penny. ;-)

48 posted on 12/01/2004 11:35:38 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: alfa6

Starting today since it's the forst of the month. :-)


49 posted on 12/01/2004 12:11:48 PM PST by SAMWolf (In some cultures what I do would be considered normal.)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf
Nice thread. I always wondered where the name Ft. Fetterman came from.

Lesson for today: never underestimate your enemy.

Neither side knew that the Powder River Basin held much more wealth than its surface grassland. Today, the area is one of the richest coal producing regions of the U.S., producing much enviro-friendly low-sulfer coal.

50 posted on 12/01/2004 12:19:17 PM PST by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf

I'm back.

I remember having to unload a semi trailer by hand once.
Sporting goods store.
All kinds of really heavy stuff.
And all our pallet jacks were mysteriously missing.

And I was told to do this alone by myself.
So I grabbed the nearest taller bulkier types I could find and had them unload the trailer with me.

I hated Wednesdays.
They were ALWAYS the day the shipments came, and they were always late.


51 posted on 12/01/2004 12:28:40 PM PST by Darksheare (I have friends, and I have co-conspirators.)
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To: colorado tanker
Today, the area is one of the richest coal producing regions of the U.S., producing much enviro-friendly low-sulfer coal.

IIRC, Clinton put a lot of it off limits so his Indonesia buddies could sell their coal instead.

52 posted on 12/01/2004 12:56:34 PM PST by SAMWolf (In some cultures what I do would be considered normal.)
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To: Darksheare
So I grabbed the nearest taller bulkier types I could find and had them unload the trailer with me

An option not available to me, unless you count Snippy. ;-)

53 posted on 12/01/2004 12:57:34 PM PST by SAMWolf (In some cultures what I do would be considered normal.)
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To: SAMWolf

I know, it's just you two.
*sigh*

She's gonna get you about part of that you know.


54 posted on 12/01/2004 1:03:08 PM PST by Darksheare (I have friends, and I have co-conspirators.)
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To: U S Army EOD
I am familiar with the materials you refer to.

The West did not become squeamish about violence until quite recently, making a long change from hard boiled points of view in the 11th Century to those of today. (And harder points of view during the Roman period.) I would say this change is due to lack of real enemies, eminent ones that evoke true fear. Easy luxury, that is. Improving technologies played a big part.

I was not in particular danger during my Viet Nam days. I had spent half of my life in East Asia by then, though, and Viet Namese body language was totally readable. There was a period of time when I did not think I was going to be able to avoid capture if I happened to survive. Things worked out, though, and I did not have to make the final choice.

One of the reactions to long term heavy fear is personal recklessness. A sort of "get it over with" motivation, though it comes across beforehand as bluster. Seen that one more than once. Pretty common. Suspect Fetterman of being of that sort.

55 posted on 12/01/2004 1:13:28 PM PST by Iris7 (.....to protect the Constitution from all enemies, both foreign and domestic. Same bunch, anyway.)
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To: SAMWolf; Darksheare
An option not available to me, unless you count Snippy.

Cute, real cute......

56 posted on 12/01/2004 1:46:12 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf

[To Sam]
We're doomed.





RUN for it!


57 posted on 12/01/2004 1:58:24 PM PST by Darksheare (I have friends, and I have co-conspirators.)
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To: Darksheare

I know, so far so good, maybe she'll miss it. ;-)


58 posted on 12/01/2004 2:07:40 PM PST by SAMWolf (In some cultures what I do would be considered normal.)
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To: Iris7

I doubt if Fetterman knew anything about the way Indians fought. This was basically the same attitude that the Johnson administration had toward the NVA and VC. They believed that if you could show just one John Wayne movie in Hanoi the NVA would give up.


59 posted on 12/01/2004 2:08:50 PM PST by U S Army EOD (John Kerry, the mother of all flip floppers.I)
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To: SAMWolf

She saw it... post 56.


60 posted on 12/01/2004 2:11:28 PM PST by Darksheare (I have friends, and I have co-conspirators.)
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