The FReeper Foxhole Remembers Thankgiving "Over There" - Nov .25th, 2004

www.pilgrimhall.org ^ | Peggy M. Baker, Director & Librarian, Pilgrim Society.

[Iris7]

Sounds like some kind of wax. There is a lubricant used in making float glass, but I don't know what it is.

Alpha6 is correct, ammonia first. High pH stuff. Should break the bond with the glass. You need what is called "free hydroxyl alkalinity." Solution should feel very slick between thumb and forefinger. The slickness is caused by your skin turning to soap. Stuff is still there, add more ammonia, up to 100%. Apron, goggles, rain jacket, and gloves. Don't let it run up your sleeves, if needed duct tape. Nasty in the eyes. Next thing to try is to test apply energine or kerosene. Next test vinegar and water. Low pH stuff. Muriatic acid next. Likely need to scrub the test spots, I like the white Scotchbrite. The green has strong abrasives. If you do use solvent remove residue with ammonia water. Don't mix this stuff up in one bucket, don't want to lose you. Hose off the chemicals well then squeegee. This will remove anything but epoxies and similar from glass.

This doesn't work there is a good glass cleaner made to clean laboratory glasswear, high pH. Safe to handle with gloves, apron and goggles. Hazardous chemicals are next, should not be needed.

Really, I will be surprised if the ammonia - water does not work. Keep it out of your eyes. Really. Use the slippery between the fingers test to be sure the solution is the right concentration. Have a bucket of clean water to rinse off the stuff from your hand.

Do some of this sort of thing for a living, amongst other stuff, always try to keep my people healthy. Piece of cake, no sweat GI, the precautions are adequate.

Most building type guys are too casual with materials they don't understand. That epoxy you guys were using is dangerous to handle especially on an everyday basis. Sometimes even a drop will cause serious allergic sensitivity. After the catalyst is added but before it is really set up it is toxic. During the period when it stinks.

[Iris7]

Speaking of moderation in all things, I figure that this rule means moderation in all things including moderation. Got to be moderate in your moderation, Hey!!

[Iris7]

Should work. Good abrasives, expensive, super gentle. The floor pads are a good idea, should have thought of it. No abrasives at all you can see or feel even in the red ones. Look like straight nylon.

Snip says some sort of ag spray on the plants maybe got on the windows. They use some funny stuff to keep that sort of thing from washing off. Odd polymers, heavy duty chemistry. My earlier advice should work. Windex is real puny because it doesn't need to be otherwise and because they don't want lawsuits. Only good for B.O. condensed on the glass.

Phil, read your pieces with enjoyment, as always. Sometimes I think you may be a little Right of me, at least in some ways. Amazing.

[Iris7]

Those "HIWI", "Hilfswillige", "Willing Helpers", people were a pretty vulgar bunch. But then so were the Nazis. Made a nice fit.

Most of the old Wehrmacht officers, the ones trained in the prewar officer schools, thought attaching HIWIs to your outfit in very poor taste.

Don't get me wrong, the Wehrmacht was perfectly willing to invade Poland, and fought the 1944 Battle of Warsaw against the Home Army.

The Wehmacht had quite a few good soldiers, but nothing compared to the Monte Cassino Poles, though. Even Student's early war men were not of that sort of quality. The old Wehrmacht stories of Monte Cassino are most intense.

I'm an easy going guy, but those people Hitler surrounded himself with really show what a deformed and nasty creature he really was. How about Stalin's creepy buddies? Mao's love life? You guys could have done a lot worse than Jaruzelski, speaking of HIWIs, this time the Soviet's boy.

The Soviets would never have listened to anyone not a believing Communist. I am not saying Jarulzelski was not responsible for the deaths of very good men. Sure was. A nice miltary court martial showing that he was responsible for his subordinate's actions, and a nice hanging, is OK by me. A Court Martial could get a lot of that stuff from those days out in the open.

[Iris7]

"Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald"

Bet that gets her goat. Ah, well, I am on the same sort of lists you are, never figured to live forever anyway.

Besides, I talk to my children's friends, and I think maybe we win this thing.

Tried talking about Hilary, though actually I think Bill is even worse. No go, too emotional. Justice would be sweet.

[E.G.C.]

BTT!!!!!!!

[SAMWolf]

Thanks Iris7. I figure we'll try the ammonia and the vinegar and see if either work. I figured that there had to be some sort of "film" on the glass that regular window cleaners don't really get off, they just sort of "move it around". Since we're the first occupants, the windows have never beeen cleaned.

I think we'll stay away from the hazardous chemical stuff. Let the building manager handle those.

[Professional Engineer]

Thanks Sam. I'd never thought about this, but the chow hall did go all out for Thanksgiving and Christmas dinners. I was pretty cool, and yummy. The Wing and Base commanders and families always were in attendance as well.

[The Mayor]

I will, Thank you for your interest.

[gc4nra]

"A US soldier shops at the PX, the name given to such stores on US bases across the world"


FYI: It stands for Post Exchange.