The FReeper Foxhole Remembers The New York Draft Riots of 1863 (July 13-16, 1863) - Oct. 7th, 2004

www.mrlincolnandnewyork.org ^

[Professional Engineer]

DOH! that really sucks for you guys.

I've been waiting 8 weeks for my flagpole antenna. It's been backordered because the manufacturer was waiting for a material shipment. Grrr

[Darksheare]

And this is what Charlie Rangel wanted to reinstate.
*ugh*

[snippy_about_it]

Watie is nothing if not consistent in his intellectual hypocrisy.

Dear Heyworth,

Welcome to the FR Foxhole. We welcome all opinions and comments for an intellegent debate about our history. However, we do try to keep our conversations polite and civil, understanding that we all have differing views. Name calling and accusations aren't called for or necessary for constructive debate. Not here.

Speaking of opinions, imo, you could have stated your beliefs without the added stabs.

The Foxhole has a large contingent of intellegent readers that can make up their own mind based on information from many sources and persuasions offered by the group and we do so in a kindly manner and would appreciate the same from all who visit here.

Please don't take my reply as an invitation to stop visiting but as a gentle reminder to debate the issue without attacking others personally.

Sincerely,
snippy about it (could you tell?)
Foxhole hostess

[snippy_about_it]

ROTFLOL. Darn you're good!

[alfa6]

Good afternoon everyone, how about a little airplane trivia today? Care to name the manufacturer and Model# or military desigination?



Regards

alfa6 ;>}

[snippy_about_it]

That's right.

Good morning Darksheare.

[Darksheare]

Morning.

What makes that bill Rangel introduced so infuriating is the left's constant accusations that it's Republicans who were doing it.
And the left continues to claim such even after it has been shown t be false.

[alfa6]

Hi manna



Saw this pic on another thread and thought you might like it :-)...http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1237941/posts

Regards

alfa6 ;>}

[Heyworth]

So noted. With an apology to the forum, let me rephrase. While Watie's version of events is colorful, it appears to bear little resemblance to the reality as accepted by nearly every source. The New York Tribune was a hardline Republican paper in a Democrat city, and was prone to exaggeration in opposition to their political rivals. Therefore, its version of the event has to be taken with a large grain of salt. Also, notably, it doesn't present a number of victims, only a visual metaphor.

The argument that the reporter was there and therefore not to be doubted doesn't hold water either, unless one is also willing to accept every first person account of the period as equally reputable. The same paper, for instance, published first-person accounts of the massacre of innocent victims at Lawrence, Kansas by Quantrill's guerillas, but Watie's oft-repeated position is that every last victim of Lawrence --150 of them--was a murdering Jayhawker who had it coming.

[alfa6]

Here ya go snippy, Aeronaut getting into that stealth plane of his, hehehe



Regards

alfa6 ;>}

[Professional Engineer]

The North American AT-6 Texan of course!

[SAMWolf]

Looks like a North American P-64.

[SAMWolf]

Hi Manna!

[SAMWolf]

Morning stand watie.

I don't enough about the NYC Draft riots to know what the casualties were, I have to take any newspaper reports with a grain of salt, I figure they were no different back then than they are today.

Not a bright spot in our country's history, but from my readings of the time, Blacks weren't exactly welcomed with open arms up North either. The hard part about getting any kind of accuracy on things written back then is newspaper sensationalism and things written today have been either PC'd or written to push today's agendas.

History is written by the victors.

[SAMWolf]

Morning Aeronaut.

[SAMWolf]

Why did I never learn of this in Publik Skool?

When I went to school it got a mention, more of a footnote than anything else.

[SAMWolf]

Good to hear you're high and dry. :-)

[SAMWolf]

Morning Samwise.

How's the store coming along?

We feel like we're being pulled in 7 different directions. SO many people to try and coordinate with. ARRRRRRRGH!

[SAMWolf]

Last place, maybe. :-)

[SAMWolf]

Thanks for the bump, stainlessbanner