The FReeper Foxhole Remembers The New York Draft Riots of 1863 (July 13-16, 1863) - Oct. 7th, 2004

www.mrlincolnandnewyork.org ^

[snippy_about_it]

We will expect pictures!!!

[Soaring Feather]

I brought my camera along so there will be some pictures. :-)

[Heyworth]

We covered both Quantrill and the Lawrence Massacre at the Foxhole. Again, not one of the brighter spots in our History.

Any idea how I'd find that thread? I did a search of "Foxhole" plus "Quantrill" or "Kansas" or "Lawrence" and came up empty.

[alfa6]

Have to give SAM the credit on this one although P.E. was close.

As given in JANE'S ALL THE WORLD'S AIRCRAFT 1939

North American P-64, probably a replica pic but I am not sure on that point.

North American produced the NA-50 for Peru and the NA-68 for Thailand/Siam as a cheap export fighter based on the NA-16 design, or T-6 as P.E. thought. The US used them as P-64s for advance pursuit training early in WWII

Perfomance figures for the series were:

Max Speed 295mph at 9,500ft
Crusie Speed 255mph at 16,500ft
Empty Weight 4,470 pounds
loaded Weight 5,700 pounds
Engine was a Wright GR-1820-G203 Cyclone

On a personal work I havee to go back to work on the 19th on nights, RATS. A little over a week of fun and frivloity left.

Regrads

alfa6 ;>}

[Samwise]

Oooooooooops!

[snippy_about_it]

heh heh heh.

[snippy_about_it]

Here ya go!

The FReeper Foxhole Remembers Quantrill's Raid (8/21/1863) - May 18th, 2003

[stand watie]

NOTE TO ALL: "heyworth the hateful" is WELLKNOWN on all the WBTS threads for being a south-HATER, who sees EVERYTHING (including the tens of thousands of murders of helpless CSA POWs in the yankee concentration camps) done by the damnyankees as acceptable.

everything that causes the reader to believe that the damnyankees were LESS THAN PERFECT must be false in his world.

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

well said. you said it better than i did.

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

history is written by the victors.====>YOU win the PINK POPCYCLE AWARD for the day!!! WOO HOO!

free diixe,sw

[Heyworth]

I do not think those things acceptable. What I refuse to accept is that the south never did a single thing wrong, and that all transgressions were on the side of the north.

Some questions:

1. Were there any innocent victims at Lawrence?

2. How many blacks were lynched in the New York draft riots (an actual number, not just a lurid description from a Radical Republican newspaper)?

3. Were any unarmed prisoners killed at Fort Pillow?

4. Were any prisoners arbitrarily shot by guards at Andersonville?

5. What percentage of southern families owned slaves?

6. Have you contacted Dr. Lubar yet?

[Samwise]

Alaska? I envy you, truly.

[snippy_about_it]

NOTE TO ALL

Tsk tsk. And after my post to heyworth about playing nice.

It takes a well rounded education to understand the emotions on both sides.

Considering you didn't start the flurry I'll give you a pass. :-)

[snippy_about_it]

I think it is safe to say that in life and especially in war there are bad apples in every bunch, fanatics and sympathizers. The history of the War between the States needs to be looked at in it's broad scope.

Bad and Good on both sides. We've certainly covered that here by covering stories of exceptional and not so exceptional military leaders on both sides. We've covered heroic stories of individual troops, on both sides. The good, bad and ugly exists in the human spirit so it is only natural that as Americans whichever side you tend to support would have had it's share of all the human traits.

[Heyworth]

Thank you. My point exactly. Plenty of bad acts to go around.

[snippy_about_it]

Plenty of bad acts to go around.

One thing we can probably all agree on is that in today's world most of the bad appears to be on the left.

[SAMWolf]

Haven't heard that term since High School

[SAMWolf]

Flew in Anchorage in 1969. It was awesome.

[SAMWolf]

Will you ever learn?

Apparently not. :-(

[SAMWolf]

YAY! What'd I win??

Have to admit my first thought was on Italian fighter, they liked those large cowlings.

How long are you gonna be on nights?