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The FReeper Foxhole's TreadHead Tuesday - PanzerKampfwagen I & II - May 25th, 2004
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Posted on 05/25/2004 12:09:23 AM PDT by SAMWolf

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To: colorado tanker

Afternoon CT.

I remember reading that before the war when the Germans and Soviets were cooperating, when the Germans showed the Soviets their PzIII and PZIV tanks that the Soviets complained that they weren't being shown the "top of the line" equipment. Since they were working n the T-34 and KV-I they couldn't believe the Germans didin't have better tanks in the works.


61 posted on 05/25/2004 12:16:56 PM PDT by SAMWolf (This tagline was created from many little letters.)
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To: SAMWolf

I guess the Germans didn't have the best technology in every area. The T-34 really caught the Germans with their grill doors open.


62 posted on 05/25/2004 12:26:24 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Matthew Paul
Interesting - I didn't know about those characteristics of Polish. I enjoy listening to Slavic languages; they're very pleasant on the ear, in contrast to the sometime harshness of Germanic languages.

Spanish is my second language and I found it much more regular and sensible than English. English was cobbled together haphazardly out of old German, Danish and French. It's strength is the resulting richness of the vocabulary; there are usually several ways of saying the same thing, with varying nuances.

65 posted on 05/25/2004 1:16:00 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker; SAMWolf
Purchased a M1/A1 RC unit for Christmas..near 3 ft in length..so its big.
Has a series of sound chips....the turret traverses with a great wirring noise..the tube elevates..and recoils when fired.
The unit has great detail.... an American built unit..no China/Taiwan.
Was googling M1/A1 sites..looking for photos of Abrams in Iraq for some add on modelling detils which intend to add to the kit..such as rolled up canvas,antenna and other stores seen in Iraq theatre of operations.
Laughing..in one photo above..behind the guy in the turret is a white lawn chair.
66 posted on 05/25/2004 1:29:27 PM PDT by Light Speed
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To: Light Speed

You're right, it's a lawn chair! LOL!


67 posted on 05/25/2004 1:34:15 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker; SAMWolf
Changing topics....am pissed now to hear Clancy shooting his mouth off on Iraq....geez...guess I'll use his books as doorjams now.

U.S. Forces have been asked to go beyond and above in the ever changing ROE and P.C. in Iraq.
Clancy should know better..he's supposed to have a grip on Historical perspectives concerning nations bringing others into submission to counter chaos.

After thousands of years of learning curve..the nations which ruled for hundreds of years,simply locked the invaded nation down..carted off the youth and men,
grabbed the tribal and civic leaders and read them the riot act.."You will return and keep your people in line....or someone else will enjoy your wife and kiddo's....cuz your not going home either way for failing"

Yes..America is trying to go about things in a different way than history past..yet history seems to be answering back.."There is a way to do this that works"

Sistani sitting on his ass in Club Mosque..not really lifting a finger to stop Sadr is proof that the Ancient way is the one that works.

Media love chaos...Iraq is a fiscal windfall now for these talking heads.
and it gets sicko....when Andy Rooney types chime in.."This generation are not Heroe's"

Freedom is not free....those reciving it should prove their worthyness to have it..or it becomes a cheap gift.
Iraqi's are like spoiled children..even moreso..now that they discern that they can take outrageous behaviour ..like Looting,Burning and social revenge to new heights.
1 year later..they want to toss the U.S. aside like a Macdonalds wrapper,
just unbeleiveably ungratefull.
Clancy and Zinni should move to Iraq.....join the ones who are being so hard done by.

69 posted on 05/25/2004 2:19:23 PM PDT by Light Speed
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To: colorado tanker

Yeah they sure did. If the Russians hadn't been so inept in their use of the T-34 and KV-1 they had a good chance of stalling Barbarossa earlier than the winter of 1941.


70 posted on 05/25/2004 2:21:19 PM PDT by SAMWolf (This tagline was created from many little letters.)
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To: Matthew Paul

I think most American's "problem" with Polish is we're trying to figure out who stole all your vowels. ;-)

We can't pronounce your consenent combinations. The MR in my last name drives people crazy.


71 posted on 05/25/2004 2:23:51 PM PDT by SAMWolf (This tagline was created from many little letters.)
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To: Light Speed

When I was into modeling, have the fun was the weathering, combat damage and "personal touches" all tank crews put on their vehicles.


72 posted on 05/25/2004 2:25:49 PM PDT by SAMWolf (This tagline was created from many little letters.)
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To: Light Speed

have = half


73 posted on 05/25/2004 2:26:22 PM PDT by SAMWolf (This tagline was created from many little letters.)
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To: Light Speed
Good rant!

I've read quite a few Clancy's and seen him interviewed over the years. I've always had a feeling that he was not the Reaganite people think, that he's a bit squishy. I think he has a genuine affection for the folks in uniform, though.

There are a lot of people who don't get that the origins of modern terrorism is the Islamic fascism that began rising as far back as the 20's and 30's. Iraq, Iran and Syria as islamo-fascist states nurture and support terrorists. What Bush is doing directly threatens terrorism, but I don't think Clancy can see it.

I don't know what Zinni's game is. He is very invested in the Middle East status quo and could have made a good living in retirement as another Middle East diplomat/expert. The job tenure is good since the status quo didn't solve any problems. Zinni also was very prominent in the school that said there would be no more symmetrical armor wars and that we should restructure the military to take on small asymmetrical wars. Iraq put the lie to that theory, so Zinni's criticism of Iraq gets back some of his reputation.

I do wish they'd just shut up if they don't have anything nice to say. The bad guys are getting the message loud and clear that if they just keep up attacking our troops eventually the naysayers in the US will force us to withdraw, like in Vietnam. These idiots are getting our guys killed.

74 posted on 05/25/2004 2:43:16 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Tax-chick

The beauty of the left coast is in the land. ;-)


75 posted on 05/25/2004 2:45:41 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Light Speed

LOL. Love the added lawn furniture in the second pic. Thanks Light Speed.


76 posted on 05/25/2004 2:47:53 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Matthew Paul

There are always a few kids who play around in class but they can turn out well, heck, look at our own SAMWolf. :-)


77 posted on 05/25/2004 2:49:04 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: colorado tanker

Happy TreadHead Tuesday to you, too!


78 posted on 05/25/2004 2:50:29 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Matthew Paul
I speak English...

And you speak it very well.

79 posted on 05/25/2004 2:54:23 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: SAMWolf
Enjoy trains too....damn expensive hobby though : )
SD-40....been places look

SD-40's around this neck of the woods

80 posted on 05/25/2004 2:55:52 PM PDT by Light Speed
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