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The FReeper Foxhole's TreadHead Tuesday - The A22 Infantry Tank "Churchill" - Mar. 9th, 2004
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Posted on 03/09/2004 12:04:50 AM PST by SAMWolf
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To: Matthew Paul
I beleive the Mig-29 and the F-14 look real close too.
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posted on
03/09/2004 3:32:30 PM PST
by
SAMWolf
(Why experiment on animals with so many liberals out there?)
To: Johnny Gage
The JU-88 was probably the best and most versatile of the German medium bombers,there were never enough of them. Have to give the Russians some credit with recognizing good designs and either copying them outright or improving on them.
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posted on
03/09/2004 3:36:12 PM PST
by
SAMWolf
(Why experiment on animals with so many liberals out there?)
To: Matthew Paul
It's a lot easier to build on existing technology than to develop it first. Russians are good at that, :-)
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posted on
03/09/2004 3:37:45 PM PST
by
SAMWolf
(Why experiment on animals with so many liberals out there?)
To: Iris7
During most of the early part of the war, British tanks suffered from not having access to an HE round. The 2 pdr and then 6 pdr weapons didn't have one until around 1943/44. This lead to some interesting solutions to the problem (like the early Churchill tanks having a 3" howitzer as well as their 2 pdr weapons), until the British introduced their HE rounds. This was also one of the main reasons for the introduction of the British 75mm gun - the British were happy with the 6 pdr as a main weapon (it was generally more accurate and more powerful than the 75mm gun), but it couldn't fire HE.
Weapon Type |
Ammunition |
Date Entered |
2 Pounder |
AP |
35 |
HE |
43 |
6 Pounder |
AP |
40 |
APDS |
44 |
HE |
44 |
75mm L38 |
AP |
40 |
HE |
43 |
British 75mm:
The British 75mm was developed mainly as a stop gap until HE ammo could be introduced for th 6 pounder gun. In performance though, it was virtually identical to the American 75mm M3 gun, from which it was copied. As such, while the above values are for consistancy with Mein Panzer, I find it acceptable to up the AP value to 10 to keep it in line. It can also fire all American ammunition (cheifly the HE round, but also the others). Interestingly enough, while the British and American 75mm were good guns, their armour penetration was actually slightly less than the 6 pounder weapon...
British and American Tanks of World War Two
Cassell & Co, 2000, although previously published by Arms and Armour, 1969
Churchill Infantry Tank, 1941-1951
Osprey Publising Limited, 1993
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posted on
03/09/2004 3:45:05 PM PST
by
SAMWolf
(Why experiment on animals with so many liberals out there?)
To: Matthew Paul
Where's the Snow Fort??
145
posted on
03/09/2004 3:46:24 PM PST
by
SAMWolf
(Why experiment on animals with so many liberals out there?)
To: GATOR NAVY
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posted on
03/09/2004 3:50:05 PM PST
by
snippy_about_it
(Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
To: GATOR NAVY
![](http://www.d-daytanks.org.uk/images/exhibits/5765-D-5.jpg)
The real business of the Churchill AVRE, the 290mm spigot mortar, known as the Petard which fired an 18 kg round over a range of about 75m. Not so easy to see is the sliding loader's hatch, underneath the gun.
It was a real "close in" weapon, I believe it was designed as a bunker buster.
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posted on
03/09/2004 3:50:16 PM PST
by
SAMWolf
(Why experiment on animals with so many liberals out there?)
To: Matthew Paul
Any chance of a last minute change in plans? I can't believe the majority of people in Poland would go along with this.
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posted on
03/09/2004 3:51:50 PM PST
by
SAMWolf
(Why experiment on animals with so many liberals out there?)
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To: Matthew Paul
Matt, I love this emblem for Poles against the EU. Thank you. I saved it on the Foxhole's server.
150
posted on
03/09/2004 4:00:29 PM PST
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snippy_about_it
(Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
Comment #151 Removed by Moderator
To: Matthew Paul
Yeah Dictators and those who work for them tend to be arrogant.
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posted on
03/09/2004 4:12:52 PM PST
by
SAMWolf
(Why experiment on animals with so many liberals out there?)
To: Matthew Paul
We'll pray that the Polish people see the light in time.
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03/09/2004 4:13:39 PM PST
by
SAMWolf
(Why experiment on animals with so many liberals out there?)
Comment #154 Removed by Moderator
To: Matthew Paul
Wonderful news Matthew. Thanks for keeping us informed about what is going on there. I'm glad the youth are fighting it now and so strongly.
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posted on
03/09/2004 5:57:55 PM PST
by
snippy_about_it
(Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
To: Matthew Paul
Thanks Matt.
You who are on the road
Must have a code that you can live by
And so become yourself
Because the past is just a good bye
Teach your children well
Their father's hell did slowly go by
And feed them on your dreams
The one they picked, the one you'll know by
Don't you ever ask them why
If they told you, you will cry
So just look at them and sigh
And know they love you
And know they love you
And you, of tender years
Don't know the fears that your elders grew by
And so please help them with your youth
They seek the truth before they can die
Taylor and Zac overlay:
Can you hear me and do you care, can't you see
You must be free to teach your children
What you believe in
Make a world that we can live in
Teach your parents well
Their children's hell did slowly go by
And feed them on your dreams
The one they picked, the one you'll know by
Don't you ever ask them why
If they told you, you will cry
So just look at them and sigh
And know they love you
And know they love you
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posted on
03/09/2004 6:27:29 PM PST
by
SAMWolf
(Why experiment on animals with so many liberals out there?)
To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; E.G.C.; Victoria Delsoul; colorado tanker; Light Speed; ...
CHURCHILL TANKS and their VARIANTS: A22 Churchill Infantry Tank![](http://home.wanadoo.nl/hohmodel/churchill/chur28.jpg)
Churchill Demolition
Churchill with Jones Onion. One of a number of charge placing devices mounted on Churchill to breach or demolish obstacles. 1,000 lb HE charges were fixed to a frame attached to the front and kept upright by two arms. On reaching the obstacle, the frame was released and a pair of legs at the bottom of the frame met the ground first and made sure that it fell forwards and not back against the tank. The tank reversed away. The explosives were set-off remotely.
Particularly effective against the Kerry Weasel, which, after reversing direction repeatedly, attempts to burrow into an obfuscatory lair.
Britain's Churchill
![](http://www.wwiivehicles.com/images/britain/churchill_arve_bobbin_01.jpg)
Churchill ARVE with Bobbin Carpet Laying device
![](http://perso.wanadoo.fr/stephane.delogu/79-2-1.JPG)
Crocodile
![](http://ww2photo.mimerswell.com/tanks/gb/inf/chur/spec/03020.jpg)
Olika på och ombyggnader för Churchillvagnar
![](http://www.rainbowten.co.jp/data/221/22721.jpg)
Japanese imitation Churchill operative three weeks after capture of original--built entirely of flattened tea tins.
CHURCHILL INFANTRY TANK
![](http://allied.hp.infoseek.co.jp/gallery/bovington/churchill/chage01.jpg)
Armor of the Korean War
![](http://korea50.army.mil/graphics/crane.jpg)
Churchill VII Infantry Tank.
Variants included ones mounting a 95-mm howitzer, flamethrower, bridge layer, mortar and recovery vehicles.
Most used in Korea were the Mark III.
Crew: 5 men
Main gun: 75 mm
Machine guns: two light, one mounted forward in the hull, the other coaxially with the main gun
Weight (combat loaded): 44.8 tons
Length (not including gun): 24 feet 5 inches
Width (overall): 9 feet
Height (to top of turret): 11 feet 4 inches
Armor: turret front, 152 mm; minimum 25 mm elsewhere
Ammunition carried: 84 rounds for 75 mm; amount for machine guns unknown
Engine: Bedford twin-six gasoline, 350 hp
Maximum speed: 15.5 mph
Armor penetration: 68 mm at 500 yards
Range: 90 miles
Fording depth: 3 feet 4 inches
Vertical obstacle: 2 feet 6 inches
Trench crossing: 10 feet
![](http://www.warlinks.com/equipment/flame_tank.jpg)
Geilenkirchen to the Rhine
![](http://www.military.cz/panzer/tanks/united_kindom/churchill/image/churchill_2.jpg)
Infantry Tank Mk III Churchill MK VII
A colony of Churchills pours out of the ground in response to vibrations from the invading panzerantstampfen.
![](http://www.bbc.co.uk/threecounties/community/vauxhall/historic_gallery/historic4.jpg)
When Montgomery complained to the War Ministry of the Churchill's hideously undergunned condition, the official response was to offer the sedans shown as an alternative. It was decided to make do with the tank rather than sally forth on rubber tyres armed only with the new automatic cigarette lighter.
![](http://www.toysoldiers.cc/military%20books/osprey/New%20Vanguard/Images/NVG004.jpg)
As illustrated above, the Churchill's armor demonstrated a propensity to fragment in large chunks, leaving its interior exposed.
British Infantry Tank, Mk IV, A22, "Churchill", Part 1
![](http://afvinteriors.hobbyvista.com/church/church1.jpg)
![](http://afvinteriors.hobbyvista.com/church/church4.jpg)
12-cylinder Vauxhall Bedford Twin-Six 350hp engine
![](http://afvinteriors.hobbyvista.com/church/church7a.jpg)
One of the clues that this compartment belongs inside a later Churchill is that the early machines with the five-speed Merrit-Brown gearbox had their compressor placed up in the corner of the compartment. This later model Churchill tank with the four-speed H4 gearbox had its compressor fitted directly on the gearbox casing, as you see here.
![](http://members.chello.nl/teeuw01/goingretro/40paarfiets.jpg)
Bicycletruppenspankenverboten 1940 von Hans Offbuster
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posted on
03/09/2004 7:54:42 PM PST
by
PhilDragoo
(Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
To: PhilDragoo
LOL. You're on a roll tonight Phil. I like the new bicycletruppenspanken (verboten) pic.
158
posted on
03/09/2004 8:07:05 PM PST
by
snippy_about_it
(Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
To: PhilDragoo
Evening Phil Dragoo.
I don't know if I'd want to be driving around with 1,000 lbs of HE handing to the front of my vehicle, especially with people shotting at me.
Thanks for all the laughs tonight.
So we finally get to eyeball the infamous von Hans Offbuster
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posted on
03/09/2004 8:07:16 PM PST
by
SAMWolf
(Why experiment on animals with so many liberals out there?)
To: SAMWolf
One of my favorite breakfasts...which is why I'm 25 lbs over weight!
The Wall"
The National Vietnam Veterans Memorial in Washington, D.C.
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posted on
03/09/2004 8:27:06 PM PST
by
GailA
(Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
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