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The FReeper Foxhole's TreadHead Tuesday - PanzerKampfwagen V - Panther - Feb. 17th, 2004
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Posted on 02/17/2004 12:01:15 AM PST by SAMWolf

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To: Colonel_Flagg
Morning Colonel Flagg.

The tactical missions of the Eighth and Ninth Airforces supported the advancing allied armies through a network of FAC's (Forward Air Controllers), that would work directly with ground echelons on the advance. Air strikes terrorized the German armor and ground forces, and few encounters between the fighters and fighter bombers came out in favor of the Germans. Throughout the dalight hours of August and September 1944, these attacks hounded and paralyzed the supply lines and logistics of the enemy. Moving war material and troops at night under the cloak of darkness offered one of the few opportunities for the Germans to make any progress. Few targets escaped the punishing attacks of these fighters, who used their bombs, rockets and .50 caliber machine guns to pulverize the surprised Germans. tHe level of intensity of these attacks were such that 56 years later, surviving German soldiers still speak in hushed tones ofthe ferocity of fighter attacks and the feelings of hopelessness and fear that became increasingly an every day occurence.

In Robert Bailey's latest painting Mustang Menace, just such a scenario unfolds. A German tank column moving to the front has had the unfortunate luck to cross paths with a Kriegslok train carrying petro chemicals. Alerted by an FAC, fighters of the 357th. F.G. attack with a vengeance at the target-rich environment. The ensuing conflagration is just another day on the job for the 357th.

41 posted on 02/17/2004 7:10:36 AM PST by SAMWolf (Liberals are invulnerable to reason & logic. They are vulnerable to guns, knives & a bitch slap.)
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To: SAMWolf
Cool paintings Sam!
42 posted on 02/17/2004 7:12:08 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Aeronaut

I've seen the C-5. How's it compare in size so I can get a mental picture?

43 posted on 02/17/2004 7:12:54 AM PST by SAMWolf (Liberals are invulnerable to reason & logic. They are vulnerable to guns, knives & a bitch slap.)
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To: SAMWolf
Oh my goodness that's beautiful. Thanks so much Sam.
44 posted on 02/17/2004 7:13:44 AM PST by Soaring Feather (~ I do Poetry and Party among the stars~)
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Air Power
Boeing-Sikorsky RAH-66 "Comanche"

The Boeing-Sikorsky RAH-66 Comanche is the Army's next generation armed reconnaissance helicopter. It also is the first helicopter developed specifically for this role. The Comanche will provide Army Aviation the opportunity to move into the 21st century with a weapon system of unsurpassed warfighting capabilities crucial to the Army's future strategic vision.

The RAH-66 Comanche is an advanced twin engine, two seat (tandem) light attack/armed reconnaissance helicopter currently being developed for the U. S. Army by a joint venture comprising Boeing Helicopters and Sikorsky Aircraft. The Comanche features a five-bladed bearingless main rotor, a shrouded tail rotor, a low radar cross section composite fuselage with retractable weapons pylon, a fly-by-wire flight control system, and a fully integrated cockpit. The mission equipment package incorporates forward-looking infrared (FLIR) and image intensified television sensors for night pilotage and target acquisition. The Comanche will initially be armed with the semi-active laser Hellfire missile, the air-to-air Stinger missile, 2.75 inch aerial rockets, and a turreted 20 mm gun.

The Comanche is intended to replace the current fleet of AH-1 and OH-58 helicopters in all air cavalry troops and light division attack helicopter battalions, and supplement the AH-64 Apache in heavy division/corps attack helicopter battalions. The Army's April 2000 Aviation Force Modernization Plan recommended acquisition of 1,213 Comanche aircraft, valued at nearly $34 billion. The first US Army Comanche unit will be operationally equipped in 2006. Aviation battalions will be reorganized as part of the Army's 2000 Aviation Force Modernization Plan. AH-1 Cobras were divested by October 2001, and A and C model OH-58 Kiowas will be retired by 2004. The Cobras and Kiowas will be replaced by AH-64D Apaches and eventually by RAH-66 Comanches, the new reconnaissance and attack helicopter scheduled to begin joining the Army in 2008. Later-model Kiowas are scheduled for retirement in fiscal year 2013, according to the plan.

As of September 2002 the Army was considering a plan to cut the number of Comanche helicopters by almost 40%, to about 800, amid growing pressure to cancel the program entirely. Skeptics of the program suggest that unmanned planes capable of performing the Comanche's surveillance and precision-strike roles will be available to the Army prior to the maturing of the Comanche system. Under a revised concept of operations, each two-person Comanche crew could control one or two UAVs that would fly ahead of the Comanche, expanding the crews' vision of the battlefield.

In October 2002 the Defense Acquisition Board (DAB) approved the Army's restructuring plan for the Comanche helicopter program - the sixth so far in the program's history. The new Acquisition Decision Memorandum (ADM) formally approving the plan added about $3.4 billion to the Comanche's $3.1-billion development program. The program's original procurement level of 1,213 aircraft was cut to 650, due in part to the longer-than-expected service life of the AH-64 Apache combat helicopter. The first helicopters will be combat-ready in September 2009, three years behind the previous schedule. Production and purchase of the first helicopters would begin in fiscal 2006, one year later than planned under the previous schedule. The contractor team would produced the first 650 Comanches for 14 to 15 years at a rate of up to 60 helicopters per year [a reduction from the previously planned maximum annual procurement rate of 95 per year]. The Army says it needs a minimum of 819 helicopters. Reducing the Comanche buy to 650 helicopters will cut $13 billion from the $42 billion procurement budget, but also will raise the cost of each helicopter by about $8.1 million. The Comanche's unit cost will rise from $24.1 million to $32.2 million. The Pentagon approved production quantities in the Comanche program's early years that fall slightly short of the earlier plan: 15 in 2007, 23 in 2008 and 35 in 2009. The earlier schedule called for 18, 24 and 36 aircraft, respectively. The latest plan lets the Army buy up to 60 helicopters per year once full production begins after 2009, versus 62 under the old plan.

Aviation battalions will be reorganized as part of the Army's 2000 Aviation Force Modernization Plan. AH-1 Cobras were divested by October 2001, and A and C model OH-58 Kiowas will be retired by 2004. The Cobras and Kiowas will be replaced by AH-64D Apaches and eventually by RAH-66 Comanches, the new reconnaissance and attack helicopter scheduled to begin joining the Army in 2008. Later-model Kiowas are scheduled for retirement in fiscal year 2013, according to the plan.

The multi-functional battalion structure is made up of 10 AH-64D Apache attack helicopters, 10 UH-60 Blackhawk utility helicopters and will eventually include 10 RAH-66 Comanche reconnaissance and attack helicopters. The Army will begin structuring battalions in this manner soon, although the Comanche requirement will have to be filled with Apaches and Kiowas until Comanche fully comes on-line.

As of late 2002 Army plans called for fielding detachments of 12 Comanche aircraft to the Objective Force brigade-strength 'units of action', accompanied by eight UAVs. Despite the cut to 650 systems, the Army still has a requirement for at least 819 Comanche helicopters. The reduced number provides systems for the 'unit of action', but does not provide enough to field the system to higher echelons of the Objective Force.

Specifications

Manufacturer Boeing Helicopter Company and
Sikorsky Aircraft Division (joint venture)
Length 46.78 feet (rotor turning)
Width 39.04 feet (rotor turning)
Height 11.0 feet (overall)
Armament
  • Air-to-air Stinger
  • Hellfire
  • 20mm three-barrel turreted gun
  • Hydra-70 rockets

Weight Empty 7,765 pounds
Combat Mission 10,600 pounds
Mission Equipment
  • Centralized processing architecture with Ada software
  • Target acquisition system with aided-target detection/classification and automatic target tracking;
  • night vision pilotage system, wide field-of-view (35ox52o) helmet-mounted display
Propulsion Two T800 1,440 SHP gas turbine engines
5-blade main rotor
Fantail anti-torque
Crew Two
Speed 330 km/hr / 172 knots - Dash speed 315 km/hr / 164 knots - Dash speed
(@ 4,000 feet/95oF / with Longbow)
310 km/hr / 161 knots - Cruise speed
Vertical Rate of Climb 500-850 feet per minute
Range 262 nm Max Range (internal fuel)
1,260 nm self-deployment range




All information and photos Copyright of Global Security
45 posted on 02/17/2004 7:14:52 AM PST by Johnny Gage (God Bless our Firefighters, our Police, our EMS responders, and most of all, our Veterans)
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To: snippy_about_it
Too bad the German Panzer crews were fighting for the wrong side, most of them where very good.
46 posted on 02/17/2004 7:14:57 AM PST by SAMWolf (Liberals are invulnerable to reason & logic. They are vulnerable to guns, knives & a bitch slap.)
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To: bentfeather
You're welcome Feather. I wonder how much that's magnified. The picture is bigger than the hummingbirds I see.
47 posted on 02/17/2004 7:16:22 AM PST by SAMWolf (Liberals are invulnerable to reason & logic. They are vulnerable to guns, knives & a bitch slap.)
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To: snippy_about_it
Thanks. There's some great Panzer Art available.
48 posted on 02/17/2004 7:17:08 AM PST by SAMWolf (Liberals are invulnerable to reason & logic. They are vulnerable to guns, knives & a bitch slap.)
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To: SAMWolf
I was thinking the same thing about the magnification. The feathers are so very tiny, but the colors are magnificent.
49 posted on 02/17/2004 7:19:47 AM PST by Soaring Feather (~ I do Poetry and Party among the stars~)
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To: Johnny Gage
Morning Johnny.

Compare to the Apache.


50 posted on 02/17/2004 7:22:05 AM PST by SAMWolf (Liberals are invulnerable to reason & logic. They are vulnerable to guns, knives & a bitch slap.)
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To: bentfeather
I love watching them dance around my feeder.
51 posted on 02/17/2004 7:22:58 AM PST by SAMWolf (Liberals are invulnerable to reason & logic. They are vulnerable to guns, knives & a bitch slap.)
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To: SAMWolf
During that brave engagement often called "Barkmann's Corner", Ernst Barkmann destroyed approximately nine Sherman tanks and many other various vehicles

Wow what an amazing guy. He certainly knew his tank's capabilities and pushed them to the max.

52 posted on 02/17/2004 7:26:35 AM PST by Johnny Gage (God Bless our Firefighters, our Police, our EMS responders, and most of all, our Veterans)
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To: SAMWolf
I never have them. I have tried everything to attract them with no luck. I don't understand it. Sam, do you see the babies when they first are coming around to feed.

I worked in a home years ago that was awash in hummers. The babies are just too much, how I love them.
53 posted on 02/17/2004 7:26:54 AM PST by Soaring Feather (~ I do Poetry and Party among the stars~)
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To: SAMWolf
The C-5 is a bigger airplane. I think the Beluga may contain more volume, though. It was built to transport Airbus fuselages (fuselai?) to an assembly plant. They are big, but not too heavy. C-5s can lift enormous payloads.
54 posted on 02/17/2004 7:30:27 AM PST by Aeronaut (In my humble opinion, the new expression for backing down from a fight should be called 'frenching')
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To: Aeronaut
Thanks. Just trying to get an idea of the size compared to something I know. Hard to believe that something like that can fly.
55 posted on 02/17/2004 7:31:39 AM PST by SAMWolf (Liberals are invulnerable to reason & logic. They are vulnerable to guns, knives & a bitch slap.)
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To: Johnny Gage
The German tank crews were good, For the most part they had good equipment. They also had the advantage of fighting agianst the Sherman which was a lot more vulnerable than the Panther or Tiger.
56 posted on 02/17/2004 7:34:18 AM PST by SAMWolf (Liberals are invulnerable to reason & logic. They are vulnerable to guns, knives & a bitch slap.)
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To: bentfeather
Can't say I ever saw the babies, but I get them all the time. I have a feeder on the deck and there seems to be some around all the time. We get them year round here.
57 posted on 02/17/2004 7:35:46 AM PST by SAMWolf (Liberals are invulnerable to reason & logic. They are vulnerable to guns, knives & a bitch slap.)
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To: SAMWolf
WOW, IR sights. I thought these were more of a Viet Nam era advancement.


58 posted on 02/17/2004 7:39:35 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Why shoud Geronimo get all the glory. My personal battle cry is~Sitting Bull!!!!!!)
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To: snippy_about_it
Howdy ma'am
59 posted on 02/17/2004 7:40:51 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Why shoud Geronimo get all the glory. My personal battle cry is~Sitting Bull!!!!!!)
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To: AnAmericanMother
"Able Fox Five to Able Fox. I got a target but ya gotta be patient."

ROFLOL. That's a good one.

60 posted on 02/17/2004 7:42:24 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Why shoud Geronimo get all the glory. My personal battle cry is~Sitting Bull!!!!!!)
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