The FReeper Foxhole Revisits Tet 1968 - Jan. 31st, 2004

http://members.fortunecity.com/stalinmao/Vietnam/VietnamWar/tet.html ^

[Darksheare]

LOL!
Shave and a haircut, and a visit from the dentist.

[Darksheare]

YUP.
Amusing when you see a 400 pound guy decide to try to do chin ups on the trailing arm of a car, damaging it and blaming the car - thus failing the car's inspection.

[SAMWolf]

Never let the government disarm you.

[U S Army EOD]

I saw the story in a newspaper we called Stars and Stripes which is a paper put out by the Army overseas about two days after it happened, while I was still in Vietnam. This was toward the end of the Easter Offensive in 1972. The North Vietnamese had been badly beaten and were pulling back into their sancuarys across the borders. Any time their units got cut off they would try to hide in the villages behind women and children so they would not get bombed. They would get as close to civilians as possible to use them for cover. While they were there, they would kill a few unarmed people themselves.

[PhilDragoo]

Thanks for the tip to good reading at Useful Fools, Veterans Against John Kerry. The Michael Moore "desertion" charge was refuted by Peter Jennings of all people.

The aid and comfort Kerry gave to the Communists in 1971 had its counterpart in his suppression of POW evidence in 1993 in order to ramrod "normalization" so his cuz Forbes could get exclusive real estate contracts in Vietnam.

That is as crass a betrayal for personal gain as can be comprehended, and grounds for his trial for treason redux:

The tale of two treacheries has one protagonist and it is Hanoi John Scary.

[SAMWolf]

The aid and comfort Kerry gave to the Communists in 1971 had its counterpart in his suppression of POW evidence in 1993 in order to ramrod "normalization" so his cuz Forbes could get exclusive real estate contracts in Vietnam.

That is as crass a betrayal for personal gain as can be comprehended, and grounds for his trial for treason redux:

people who try to "cash in" on the "war hero" status shouold always be viewed with suspicion at first. John Kerry's Vietnam duty and immediate aftermath doen't hold up to scrutiny IMHO.

[Darksheare]

I still can't believe he's being sold off as a war hero.
And there are people I know of that will buy that hook line and sinker.
*shaking head*

[colorado tanker]

John Kerry - a Manchurian candidate.

[Wolverine]

You will want to read this

 

Interesting comments about Uncle Walter and the Media.

 

http://www.11thcavnam.com/education/americanlegion.htm

SPECIAL ISSUE = The American Legion Magazine = September 2003

 

JIM BOHANNON

Syndicated on nearly 500 stations through Westwood One Radio.

 

Excerpt

 

Without doubt, it can be said the enemy viewed reporters as tools for achieving their goal of victory. "Our purpose is, through a progression of all-out attacks, to cause many U.S. casualties and so erode the U.S. will that the antiwar influences will gain decisive political strength," said Pham Van Dong, former prime minister of North Vietnam. Moreover, Ho Chi Minh famously predicted, "For everyone of yours we kill, you will kill 10 of ours. But in the end, it is you who will grow tired."

 

The biggest single question of media influence on the outcome of the Vietnam War centers on the Tet Offensive of Jan. 31, 1968, and ample evidence shows that headlines dealt a lot more with expectations than fact.

[duy]

the info here has been pretty good, the VC had gone to the house of his best friend's and killed the whole entire family including women and children. Also many more the the General's men had been killed in the fighting because the Police Headquarters was also a major target.

Brig. General Nguyen Ngoc Loan was a national hero. In fact most ARVN Generals because they were REAL soldiers (with the exception of a few)who had fought the VC since they were young.

Personally if someone went and shot my friend and killed his family I would put a bullet in their head too.

Also in Hue, the bodies of the people found in the mass graves were found to have been buried alive. Yes you heard me, the VC decided that they wanted to save their ammunition to kill ARVN and US soldiers, so they buried the people alive instead of shooting them.

The VC were pure evil, they especially hated Catholics. My father told me that when Saigon fell in 1975, they gathered all the priests up and drew a line in the ground. They told the priests to stp over the line and renounce their religion or be shot. This is not "liberation"

My two Grandfather's were sent to "re-education camps" and so was my mother at the age of 16.

It is a common myth that ARVN soldiers did not want to fight for their country and their way of life. I refuse to accept that my Great Uncle who was a Lieutenant in ARVN died for a cause he did not believe in. I also refuse to accept this for the thousands of other ARVN soldiers, airmen and sailors who died protecting South Vietnam.

No words can express the sadness I feel everytime I see footage of ARVN soldiers running across the battlefield or jumping out of a plane or pulling a wounded comrade to safety. These men sacrificed their lives for freedom and ended up getting punished for it when we lost the war. The Military Cemetry where so many of these men were laid to rest has been desecrated by the Communist dogs.