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The FReeper Foxhole Profiles General Stand Hope Watie - Jan. 5th, 2004
www.civilwarhome.com ^

Posted on 01/05/2004 12:00:19 AM PST by SAMWolf

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To: Darksheare
LOL! *Covers and runs*
141 posted on 01/05/2004 6:33:31 PM PST by SAMWolf (Gotta run, the cat's caught in the printer.)
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To: PhilDragoo
Evening Phil Dragoo.

I thought Michael Jackson was a white woman?
142 posted on 01/05/2004 6:34:37 PM PST by SAMWolf (Gotta run, the cat's caught in the printer.)
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To: SAMWolf
"Here, drink this!"
*Evil laughter*
143 posted on 01/05/2004 6:38:21 PM PST by Darksheare (Tagline error 401, service unavailable.)
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Capt. Kimberly Hampton
This is a photo provided by the family of Capt. Kimberly Hampton, 27, of Easley, S.C. taken in 2002 while stationed in Korea. Capt. Hampton was killed Friday, Jan. 2, 2004, when the helicopter she was piloting was shot down near Fallujah, Iraq, making her the first woman from South Carolina killed in combat in Iraq. (AP Photo/Family Photo)

144 posted on 01/05/2004 6:44:37 PM PST by SAMWolf (Gotta run, the cat's caught in the printer.)
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To: SAMWolf
This is the first I've heard about Indians' participation in the Civil War! Amazing!
145 posted on 01/05/2004 6:51:56 PM PST by WaterDragon (GWB is The MAN!)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; AntiJen; MistyCA; SpookBrat; PhilDragoo; All
Evening friends. Good to see you all.


146 posted on 01/05/2004 7:08:12 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul (Freedom isn't won by soundbites but by the unyielding determination and sacrifice given in its cause)
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To: WaterDragon
Evening Waterdragon.

It's really a shame how much of our history is not taugght.
147 posted on 01/05/2004 7:09:36 PM PST by SAMWolf (Gotta run, the cat's caught in the printer.)
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Evening Victoria. Nice graphic.
148 posted on 01/05/2004 7:10:26 PM PST by SAMWolf (Gotta run, the cat's caught in the printer.)
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Good evening Victoria. Interesting night tonight. ;-)
149 posted on 01/05/2004 7:11:54 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: SAMWolf
True. I try to educate myself, and the Foxhole is such a help!
150 posted on 01/05/2004 7:22:18 PM PST by WaterDragon (GWB is The MAN!)
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To: SAMWolf
He's with Calypso Louie waitin' for the Mother Ship Number Nineteen.
151 posted on 01/05/2004 7:51:15 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo
Calypso Louie

Boy, there's a piece of work!!

152 posted on 01/05/2004 7:52:29 PM PST by SAMWolf (Gotta run, the cat's caught in the printer.)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; PhilDragoo
Found this report on Strategypages site written by an insider interviewing troops from the 3rd ID.

I can't tell the story of this fight in an email. It will take me at least an Infantry Magazine article, maybe a series of articles. The enemy at CURLEY turned out to be fanatical Syrian Jihadists, determined to die. They attacked incessantly for 12-14 hours, firing small arms and RPGs from buildings, trenches, bunkers, and rubble along side the cloverleaf intersection. They "charged" the US positions (the only word that fits), in taxis, cars, trucks with heavy machine guns mounted, and even in motorcycles with recoilless rifles tied to the side cars (not a war story, I saw one of them that the battalion captured). They drove cars loaded with explosives at high speed towards the US positions, hoping to take American with them in death when they exploded. The mortar platoon occupied the southern part of the objective with two tubes aimed north and two aimed south. They fired simultaneous indirect fire missions south and north, while the gunners on the .50 caliber machine guns fired direct fire to defend their positions. The mortar men continued to fire missions even while under ground assault and indirect fire. They fired over 20 direct lay missions against buildings housing enemy forces and against "Technical Vehicles" firing against the position. They supported the forces on the two other objectives with nine DANGER CLOSE missions, especially after the supporting FA unit fired a mission that struck US positions and wounded two soldiers. The Bn FSO was so angry at the FA that he ceased calling them and used the mortars exclusively for over 12 hours.

The Combat Engineers earned that title. They were magnificent both as Infantrymen and as engineers. They exposed themselves to incredible fire to blow light poles down to make Abatis to stop the suicide taxis. The ACE drivers went outside the perimeter, alone, to build berms and remove guardrails to allow movement between positions. They formed up scratch teams, along with radio operators and drivers, and cleared trenches and bunkers against fanatical defenders, at least one of who was a woman, armed and fighting to the death in the trench line.

Everyone fought! There was not choice, it is not overly dramatic to state that it was a case of "fight, or die". OBJ CURLEY had to be held. If it could not keep the MSR open, the rest of TF 3-15 and the two armor task forces further north would be cut off and isolated deep within the city. Already the BCT commander had ordered the tankers to shut off their engines in order to save the little remaining fuel. Everyone was critically short ammunition, but the company team fighting on OBJ MOE was "BLACK" on main gun, coax, and small arms ammo. If CURLEY fell, so would MOE, and TF 3-15 would face defeat in detail.

The Task Force commander called and asked the key question of CPT Hornbuckle..."Can TM Zan hold CURLEY and let the ammunition and fuel HEMMTs roll north to the other forces?" CPT Hornbuckle said that he thought he could hold, but the TF commander heard the stress and worry in his voice. He knew that CPT Hornbuckle was a fighter, but he worried that TM ZAN was facing a crisis and he needed to know for certain. He called the CSM and asked him, straight up, did the team need help? CSM Robert Gallagher, who had been wounded fighting with the 75th Rangers at Mogadishu, didn't hesitate. He told LTC Twitty that he needed to do something to help relieve TM ZAN, and he had to do it fast! At that time, CSM Gallagher was already wounded again, and he was standing on one leg beside his M88 firing his M4 carbine. The medics had armed themselves, and all the drivers and RTOs that could be spared were fighting to protect the company TOC against suicide attackers working their way through the rubble and along the off-ramps of the cloverleaf.

LTC Twitty had no other forces, but he did have the uncommitted elements of his last mech infantry Company, back a the FSB. Although they had been fighting a series of running fights themselves, they were ready to move. LTC Twitty called the Commander, CPT Ronnie Johnson, and told him get ready to send a platoon to CURLEY. CPT Johnson made a counter-recommendation. He wanted to take his entire company, the two mech platoons, the BFIST, and the Maintenance and 1SGS's M113s, all the armored fighting vehicles he could lay his hands on. This was probably the crucial decision of the battle. LTC Twitty agreed, and asked the BCT commander to release the company, which he did. B Co, 3-15 Infantry roared north, every gun in the convoy firing, to fight its way to Obj CURLEY. It arrived literally in the nick of time, although it lost a Scout HMMWV and one NCO KIA by an RPG. With the additional forces, CPT Johnson, who took over command at CURLEY, reinforced the defenders and pushed the perimeter further out, far enough that the vital re-supply convoy that was right behind him had a chance to make it through.

Even then, the situation was not secure. The sight of 20 heavy trucks loaded with ammunition and fuel reinvigorated the Syrian Jihadists attacking CURLEY. They opened up with renewed fury. In a moment, several trucks were burning, and the fire was spreading. A sergeant ran out into a hail of fire to try to start one of the trucks to move it away, but it was already too damaged to drive. At this time, LTC Scott Rutter, an old SGI from Fort Benning arrived with the lead elements of TF 2-7. He had been sent, with only an hour's notice, on a long circuitous route from his position near the airport to reinforce the 2nd BCT. He fought his way thru to the objective and assumed control at CURLEY. CPT Johnson moved the remaining re-supply trucks to MOE and LARRY with his forces, and then escorted them further north for the armored task forces, thus ensuring that they could stay in the city for the night and the next day. Scott had a hellava fight at CURLEY the next day, but after that, the heart had been cut out of the enemy forces, and the 3rd Infantry Division was in Baghdad to stay.

I have left out so much that I want to write, but there is only so much I can do. I have it in my notes, in my head, and in my heart. I have never in my life been more proud of the American soldier. I stand humbled before these men.

Hoo Ah!


153 posted on 01/05/2004 8:30:05 PM PST by Light Speed
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To: Light Speed
Thank you Light Speed.
154 posted on 01/05/2004 9:06:31 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Light Speed
LOL! Love the tank, I love the GI's sense of humor, no one does it better.
155 posted on 01/05/2004 9:07:26 PM PST by SAMWolf (Gotta run, the cat's caught in the printer.)
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To: PhilDragoo; SAMWolf
LOL. Thank you Phil.

You two both got a laugh out of me with your comments.

Elvis was good, Jacko is just a freak and I thought Wayne Newton was a woman!
156 posted on 01/06/2004 6:25:00 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: SAMWolf
Wow! Great thread today (yesterday? whenever...) SAM. I didn't know about the Cherokee participation in the Civil War.

I'm going to bookmark this for Hubby. His great-grandmother was Cherokee. He really wishes he knew something about her. When the Hobbit lass was little, she was was trying to figure out what part Cherokee she was. She looks just like me, light-brown hair, blue eyes, and pale skin. I jokingly said that she had about enough Cherokee blood for her big toe.

When they studied the Cherokee in school, she proudly announced that her big toe was Cherokee. Her teacher really got a hoot out of that. She let her do a report on the Cherokee.
157 posted on 01/06/2004 8:53:13 AM PST by Samwise (There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides the will of evil.)
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To: Samwise
When they studied the Cherokee in school, she proudly announced that her big toe was Cherokee.

LOL! DOn't you just love the remarks kids make. I can imagine the teacher thinking "Now, what was that about??"

158 posted on 01/06/2004 8:57:28 AM PST by SAMWolf (I have a rock garden. Last week three of them died.)
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To: Darksheare
you oughta try tracking down a bunch of nomadic "blanket@ssed injuns".

that is a TRICK!

free dixie,sw

159 posted on 01/06/2004 10:26:58 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. ,T. Jefferson)
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To: SAMWolf
did you ever notice that when the damnyankees murdered a whole bunch of POWs and/or innocent Indian civilians it is A-OK, but every time a good 'ole rebel killed somebody/a bunch of damnyankee somebodys in honorable combat, that it was an Indian massacre?????

passing STRANGE, i think.

free dixie,sw

160 posted on 01/06/2004 10:35:13 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. ,T. Jefferson)
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