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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers Sgt Alfredo Gonzalez the Battle for Hue(Jan-Feb 1968)-Dec. 10th, 2003
www.vwam.com ^ | John Flores

Posted on 12/10/2003 12:00:22 AM PST by SAMWolf

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To: Colonel_Flagg
Oh Well. Looks like you'll need Plan B.
41 posted on 12/10/2003 8:43:59 AM PST by SAMWolf (Ben Kenobi at the dinnertable: Use the FORKS, Luke!)
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To: SAMWolf
Not bad here today. No rain or snow. Temps have warmed up a lot, I have some windows opened to clear the house air. A few clouds, but I see blue skies.

Painters are coming back this afternoon. ugh! My gosh I will be sooooooo glad when this is completed.

It's really looking sharp now. But does need to come to and end. I will take some pictures and post them probably after Christmas. I don't have a digital camera so it takes a bit to fill a roll of film.
42 posted on 12/10/2003 8:45:46 AM PST by Soaring Feather (I do Poetry.)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it
I'm in.

Sad to read the fate of ships like that.
43 posted on 12/10/2003 8:45:55 AM PST by Darksheare (I'm experiencing a negative reality inversion.)
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To: SAMWolf
Or C.
44 posted on 12/10/2003 8:49:43 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite." - Winston Churchill)
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To: Darksheare
It took a while for the navies to figure out that ships without air cover were vulnerable. Unfortunately once again the crews paid to learn that lesson.
45 posted on 12/10/2003 8:55:13 AM PST by SAMWolf (Ben Kenobi at the dinnertable: Use the FORKS, Luke!)
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To: bentfeather
They do seem to be taking their time with the painting.
46 posted on 12/10/2003 8:56:10 AM PST by SAMWolf (Ben Kenobi at the dinnertable: Use the FORKS, Luke!)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
I think I once had to go all the way to plan E. A,B,C and D were rally bad plans. I seem to recall Plan E wasn't so hot either.
47 posted on 12/10/2003 8:57:24 AM PST by SAMWolf (Ben Kenobi at the dinnertable: Use the FORKS, Luke!)
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To: SAMWolf
Oh it's madding Sam. They did not show up Monday because of a communications screw up. Yesterday I was gone, and today they are coming in the afternoon because one on them has a appointment.
48 posted on 12/10/2003 9:00:41 AM PST by Soaring Feather (I do Poetry.)
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To: SAMWolf
Your plan E sounds like my impending SASL river crossing scenario. Sometimes from the moment you set up the board, it appears defeat is certain. Such is life.
49 posted on 12/10/2003 9:06:20 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite." - Winston Churchill)
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To: SAMWolf
Well, didn't a guy by the name of Doolittle predict that ships would be vulnerable to air attack long before WWII?
And didn't they string him up a bit for it?
50 posted on 12/10/2003 9:09:38 AM PST by Darksheare (I'm experiencing a negative reality inversion.)
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To: SAMWolf
Or was it Billy Mitchell that stated that?
*Uh oh.. history confusion alert!*
51 posted on 12/10/2003 9:14:57 AM PST by Darksheare (I'm experiencing a negative reality inversion.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
Are you like me and tend to take the underdogs in scenarios? The Germans in the Bulge, the South at Gettysburg, Frost at Arnhem, etc.
52 posted on 12/10/2003 9:36:53 AM PST by SAMWolf (Ben Kenobi at the dinnertable: Use the FORKS, Luke!)
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To: Darksheare
Funny you should mention that.

We have a thread coming up on Billy Mitchell who got screwed over for proving ships were vulnerable to air attack.
53 posted on 12/10/2003 9:38:00 AM PST by SAMWolf (Ben Kenobi at the dinnertable: Use the FORKS, Luke!)
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To: SAMWolf
*chuckle*
uh oh.
Now I'm going to be asked if I have pre-knowledge of upcoming threads?
*chuckle*
I seem to remember that there was a small test where they had a dummy torpedo make a hot run straight into the side of the lumbering battleship Arkansas.
54 posted on 12/10/2003 9:41:07 AM PST by Darksheare (I'm experiencing a negative reality inversion.)
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To: SAMWolf
>>>The civilian populace was essentially passive, neither helping nor hindering the Americans.

Excerpt from *Into Laos by Keith William Nolan

1st Cav Sheridan tank commander:

"We would hit a mine and the farmers would act like they had'nt seen a thing;they never pointed out booby traps in their fields.Women and children in a paddy would suddenly start walking quickly for the woodline,and then the platoon would be ambushed";

The people never warned the Americans of the NVA waiting for them.

Same B.S. going on in Iraq today Sam

55 posted on 12/10/2003 9:41:42 AM PST by Light Speed
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To: SAMWolf
Are you like me and tend to take the underdogs in scenarios?

I am. I love a built-in excuse ;)

At the last ASL tournament I played in, I wound up with late-war Germans twice (lots of conscripts even if they do get cool toys like Panzerfausts and Panzerschrecks), 1941 Russians twice, Greek partisans once, and an undergunned force of Loyalists in a Spanish Civil War scenario. Defended in all six rounds.

But in this case, you take a single company and command it for as long as you can make it last. Replacements and field promotions are determined after each scenario and what you get depends in part on how well you do on the cardboard battlefield. And this time, the pre-game setup tells me that my company is walking into a buzzsaw of immense proportions. I can't change it - reflecting the axiom that you do what you're ordered to do on the battlefield or they'll find someone who will.

56 posted on 12/10/2003 10:06:02 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite." - Winston Churchill)
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To: Darksheare; snippy_about_it
Now I'm going to be asked if I have pre-knowledge of upcoming threads?

You mean Snippy doesn't give you the List?

57 posted on 12/10/2003 10:16:03 AM PST by SAMWolf (Ben Kenobi at the dinnertable: Use the FORKS, Luke!)
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To: Light Speed
IMHO, if your not helping, then you're hindering.
58 posted on 12/10/2003 10:17:45 AM PST by SAMWolf (Ben Kenobi at the dinnertable: Use the FORKS, Luke!)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it
LIST?!
I thought you had the list!
Snippy, you have the List?
Oh no, who's got the list?!
59 posted on 12/10/2003 10:19:23 AM PST by Darksheare (I'm experiencing a negative reality inversion.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
I always find it more challenging to try and beat the odds. Thankfully it's always been using Cardboard or cyber troops.
60 posted on 12/10/2003 10:19:41 AM PST by SAMWolf (Ben Kenobi at the dinnertable: Use the FORKS, Luke!)
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