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Fed Audit Under Fire (Ron Paul)
U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, 14th District ^ | 2010-05-10

Posted on 05/15/2010 9:43:35 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

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To: allmost
That's because Bernake is smart enough to know what Paul's goal is. He's fighting it because he has a brain and knows that turning over control of the money supply to Schumer, Dodd, Frank and Rangel will result in disaster.

It's unfortunate you don't know enough about the topic to realize what is so clear to Bernake and others who understand the Fed. Don't tell me that you are unaware of the fact that the Fed is already audited. If so, you are uniquely unqualified to be commenting on the subject.

41 posted on 05/16/2010 9:23:41 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase
Such passionate defense of unelected unaccountability on this thread. Opposition to the Fed is as old as the Fed. Misdirecting the issue towards Paul.
42 posted on 05/16/2010 9:29:24 AM PDT by allmost
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To: allmost
Can you show me any court decisions showing that the establishment of the Fed by Congress is unconstitutional?

I didn't think so.

Opposition to the Fed is as old as the Fed.

And stupidity is older than the Fed.

Misdirecting the issue towards Paul.

Paul is carrying the ball on this one. That makes him an economic illiterate.....and a buffoon. I'm sure to you and Paul, the earmarking process is constitutional. Paul is a flagrant hypocrite in addition to being a loon..

43 posted on 05/16/2010 9:46:59 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: CAluvdubya; rabscuttle385; SoConPubbie
Way to go rab! I love how FR is turning into a Ron Paul site. It's already well established as anti-Palin, now's the time to push Paul. Awesome!!

Or, Ron Paul supporters could take note of the fact that Sarah Palin is the only major prospective Republican candidate who is attacking the Federal Reserve, alongside Ron Paul, and we should applaud her for that.

It's just this little theory I have called "giving credit where due"; I'm hoping it will catch on.

44 posted on 05/16/2010 2:34:19 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: allmost

Justify yourself instead of attacking people. You have stated a position, but you are incapable of defending your position. You act like a liberal.


45 posted on 05/16/2010 6:51:08 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: mlocher
It's one thing to say that you feel the Fed is justified and you believe they are acting appropriately and you do not want the books openned.

It's an entirely different thing to state that no one else has the right to look.
46 posted on 05/16/2010 10:51:43 PM PDT by allmost
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It's one thing to say that you feel the Fed is justified and you believe they are acting appropriately and you do not want the books openned.

Why can't you get it through your head that the Fed's books are opened regularly. You are operating under the delusion that the Fed's books are closed. They are not.

The Federal Reserve System

Specifically, what additional information do you need to see that is not included in these audits?

And, just in case that wasn't enough:

How the Federal Reserve Is Audited

Again, and for the last time, Paul has admitted he has no real interest in the information that will be provided by an audit and that he's only interested in the policy. Like you, he wants to politicize monetary policy. What could possibly go wrong with turning the money supply over to libtards like Chuck-it Schumer, waitress sandwich Dodd, Barney "loans for everyone who can't pay them back" Frank and Charlie "what taxes?" Rangel?

Now, please explain to us why any conservative would want to give scum like these control of the money supply? And stop claiming the Fed's books are closed. That's a lie.

47 posted on 05/17/2010 8:12:07 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase
Bernanke’s still fighting to keep any audit from happening. You say it already happens. You are calling the Fed chairman a liar?
48 posted on 05/17/2010 8:16:18 AM PDT by allmost
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To: allmost
Bernake's saying that there is no need for an additional audit to be conducted by a head case like Ron Paul because he realizes, unlike you, what Paul wants to do. He's right. Paul couldn't care less about the audit. The audit is being used by Paul as a pretense to repeal the Federal Reserve Act and end the Fed altogether.

Anyone with even a primitive understanding of the Fed knows this to be true. You seem to be willful in your ignorance and there is no rational explanation for your refusal to see that, contrary to your flagrant misunderstanding, the Fed is already audited and Paul's ambitions are strictly political.

Now, I'll ask you again, how can any person who considers himself to be conservative wish to empower the likes of Dodd, Schumer, Frank and Rangel with the direct ability to regulate the supply of money in this country?

Only the foolish and economic illiterate among us cannot see the disaster that would create. At least Ron Paul has an excuse. His motivations are something other than what he says they are. You have no excuse. You are a loon (Paultard), and a willful one at that.

49 posted on 05/17/2010 8:43:16 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase
You still defend this unelected, unaccountable, Fed. If you want this, that's great. If you refuse everyone else the option of even looking. You are a wanna-be tyrant. Keep it up...
50 posted on 05/17/2010 8:49:24 AM PDT by allmost
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To: allmost
You still defend this unelected, unaccountable, Fed.

You're lying again. I'm seeing a pattern. Get help.

Frequently Asked Questions Federal Reserve System

Have you found any settled litigation where any court has determined that the establishment of the Fed, by Congress, is unconstitutional? I didn't think so. That fact, unfortunately, still won't prevent you from spewing your ignorance here.

Congress could end the Fed tomorrow. Thankfully, they have more sense than you and Ron Paul.

If you refuse everyone else the option of even looking

The Fed audits are accessible to the public. Even an idiot could find them if he wanted to.

You are a wanna-be tyrant. Keep it up...

Oh, I see. You are an idiot. You're also an embarrassment to the forum.

51 posted on 05/17/2010 9:12:06 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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You have called me liar, being a blatant one yourself it’s kind of funny. What are you scared of being released? The truth, open and honest, you seem to detest. What sickness causes that reaction? I’m sure you have numerous juvenile descriptors for anyone asking. :)


52 posted on 05/17/2010 9:40:25 AM PDT by allmost
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What are you scared of being released?

What can't you wait to be released? Be specific.

53 posted on 05/17/2010 2:22:46 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Christian_Capitalist
Or, Ron Paul supporters could take note of the fact that Sarah Palin is the only major prospective Republican candidate who is attacking the Federal Reserve, alongside Ron Paul, and we should applaud her for that.

Wrong.

DeMint is co-sponsoring the Senate bill that would audit the Fed.

54 posted on 05/17/2010 8:08:19 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385; CAluvdubya; SoConPubbie
Or, Ron Paul supporters could take note of the fact that Sarah Palin is the only major prospective Republican candidate who is attacking the Federal Reserve, alongside Ron Paul, and we should applaud her for that. ~~ Wrong. DeMint is co-sponsoring the Senate bill that would audit the Fed.

Sure. Senator Jim DeMint is, with Senator Tom Coburn, one of the heroes of the Republic on fiscal issues right now. Even if I might tend to be more libertarian on some social issues (except Abortion, which I think should properly be outlawed as murder), I don't think that you can help but admire DeMint's commitment to Old-Time, Small-Government Fiscal Conservatism.

But I was talking about prospective Republican Candidates for 2012, and I don't personally think DeMint's planning on running for President just yet. He may surprise me yet, but I think that from now until at least after the November elections he's gonna be pretty happy just trying to help conservatives win.

So I don't consider DeMint to really be a prospective candidate yet. But in terms of "keeping her options open" for it, I think that Governor Palin certainly is considering a Presidential run.

She probably still needs to hone her knowledge of a number of economic and international issues; even with the last two years to hit the books, I don't know that she's yet achieved enough command of the universe of issues that the Gotcha Media expects Presidential Candidates to offer opinions upon.

But I'm hopeful that Governor Palin has some core principles to guide her in cases where she may not know all the "details" of an issue right off the top of her head.

And what are those core principles?

Well, from what I can tell, here are some of them:

Pro-Life, Pro-Gun Rights, Pro-Small Business, Anti-Tax, at least a Fiscally-Conservative bias on Spending, supportive of Border Security, supportive of States' Rights on a number of issues, Critical of Global Warming fallacies, Critical of the Federal Reserve... these are a lot of the same issues for which I support Congressmen like Ron Paul and Jeff Flake, and Senators like the aforementioned DeMint and Coburn.

That, and the nice things she's had to say about Ron Paul, and Rand Paul, both in 2008 and 2010 (even acknowledging her reservation of having some amicable disagreements with the Pauls on some issues)-- in both cases, pretty much before any other Republican State Governor had stepped up to describe qualities they liked about the Paul campaigns. Add to that her plugging away for Michele Bachmann, also good.

I don't think that Palin is "perfectly Constitutionalist libertarian-conservative" on all these issues, or (sadly) all of her endorsements, but I think she's at least rightward-of-center on most or all of them -- solidly so, on quite a few. That's a heckuva lot more than I can say for Romney, Huckabee, or... good grief... Gingrich.

So while I'm not impervious to disappointment, for now I am hopeful to be impressed by Candidate Palin in 2012.

JMHO.

55 posted on 05/18/2010 3:45:31 AM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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