Bombs and Bribes [Ron Paul]

U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, 14th District ^ | 2009-10-05

[dcwusmc]

That’s MORE OR LESS, yes... It was in “hot pursuit” response to actions of the Pasha, who had declared war on the United States by the time the four-ship squadron arrived with a message and $10,000.00 in tribute to the Pasha. So they WERE justified in taking “defensive” measures of whatever sort the Commodore felt needful while informing his superiors back home.

One problem that I DON’T recall is the Congress, once having authorized Jefferson to deal with the situation, waffling for “political effect.”

It should also be noted that the Pasha was “encouraged” by the Brits (and perhaps the French, with whom we’d just had some naval clashes) to prey on US Flagged shipping. Part of what, IMO, led us to the war of 1812, as declared by Congress.

[dcwusmc]

You make some semblance of sense, yes, in a Beckian Sick, twisted Freakish sort of way :^)

However, don’t lose track of where you hid your lifeboat, either...

(I’m not saying you’re wrong... I’m not sure what, if any, real thinking goes on in the minds of the AQ brass. Besides hate and screwing goats, I mean!)

[publana]

This guy is such a nutter. He’s an embarrassment to Libertarians.

[Little Ray]

A lot. They’re fanatical, not stupid.
These guys worked with the CIA for a long time during the Afghan-Soviet war. During that period they learned how our intelligence services operated, and how to fly almost completely under our intelligence umbrella. They also learned how to send our Intel guys haring off on wild goose chases after false, misleading or dead-end leads (example: before they left on 9/11 for the attack, the hijackeers make sure they called attention to their car so that it would be found quickly - it was loaded with lots of useless “intel” to waste the CIA’s time...).
During this time, they also made their contacts with the Saudi and Paki Intel that have served them well to this day.
A good read is America’s Secret War: Inside the Hidden Worldwide Struggle Between America and Its Enemies by George Friedman. Keep in mind its a bit behind the times (2004).

[BlackElk]

We need to stop bribing and considerably step up the bombing. If Red China were to send drones here to kill American citizens, we would need to respond in several ways: (1) repudiate all public debt to the Red Chinese; (2) seize all Red Chinese assets in the US; 3) Make any Red Chinese navy or air force and the bulk of the People's Liberation Army a radioactive memory; 4) Give the Chicoms 24 hours to unconditionally surrender or see Beijing removed from the map except as a radioactive ash heap; 5) Withdraw from any international agreements involving the Chicoms; 6) Remove the UN from the US and vice versa. Of course, none of those are likely until the end of the Obammunist regime on January 21, 2113.

[BlackElk]

Yes.