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Trade Wars and Protectionism are not Free Trade [Ron Paul]
U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, 14th District ^ | 2009-09-21

Posted on 09/21/2009 9:57:06 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

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1 posted on 09/21/2009 9:57:07 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
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2 posted on 09/21/2009 9:57:38 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (So many Communists, so little time.)
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The Globalist, Free-Trading approach, while in many ways has driven the economy, it has also destroyed the manufacturing sector (or the whole middle) of our economy, leaving high-end jobs and service sector jobs.

Free trade is great, if you hold your trading partners accountable, otherwise, it’s just another word for economic suicide.


3 posted on 09/21/2009 10:13:07 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: rabscuttle385

DON’T STEAL the government hates competition hahahha lol


4 posted on 09/21/2009 10:20:53 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: SoConPubbie

So you imagine if I can get some foreigner to take green piece of paper that they never plan to turn back into US goods for say a car, it is a bad deal for me or the US? Ha!


5 posted on 09/21/2009 10:21:06 PM PDT by JLS
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To: rabscuttle385

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6 posted on 09/21/2009 10:23:54 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: SoConPubbie
it has also destroyed the manufacturing sector (or the whole middle) of our economy

Manufacturing still exists in the United States.

The last Toyota I drove was assembled in Georgetown, Kentucky.

The Mitsubishi I drive today was built in Diamond, Illinois.

BMW has a manufacturing plant in upstate South Carolina.

Rolls Royce just entered into agreements with the Commonwealth of Virginia to locate manufacturing facilities here.

I'm sure I could find other examples, if you would like.

Free trade is great, if you hold your trading partners accountable

Or, you compete with them.

Free trade is dangerous only if coupled with excessive and overbearing regulation and taxes that stifle the ability to compete.

7 posted on 09/21/2009 10:30:02 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (So many Communists, so little time.)
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The Mitsubishi I drive today was built in Diamond, Illinois.

Sorry, that should have read "Normal, Illinois."

8 posted on 09/21/2009 10:40:29 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (So many Communists, so little time.)
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NAFTA, CAFTA, GATT, ect have done nothing but screw the majority of Americans for a tiny fraction (or faction) to get even richer and have even more control.


9 posted on 09/21/2009 11:27:22 PM PDT by RAO1125 (Neoconservatism:Failed. Socialism:Failing (again). Next up: Libertarianism)
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NAFTA, CAFTA, GATT, ect have done nothing but screw the majority of Americans for a tiny fraction (or faction) to get even richer and have even more control.

True. But those are not free trade agreements, even though that is what they are called. Those are sweetheart deals between two presidents on behalf of their favored supporters in industry and agriculture.

True free trade is always unilateral. Just remove the tariffs and other trade barriers. Whenever two governments get together you can be certain the result won't be anything like free .

10 posted on 09/22/2009 12:03:56 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: SeeSharp

Aye. Commerce with all nations, entangling alliances with none. Including Cuba, Iran, ect IMO. Embargoes never work and only hurt the citizenry, leading to more anti-Americanism that usually keeps the enemy regime in power. Russell Kirk said it best: “If you want to spread capitalism, take the chains off and let it work. A good product sells itself.”


11 posted on 09/22/2009 3:33:08 AM PDT by RAO1125 (Neoconservatism:Failed. Socialism:Failing (again). Next up: Libertarianism)
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"Rolls Royce just entered into agreements with the Commonwealth of Virginia to locate manufacturing facilities here."

Is there that much interest in a RR anymore? I live in NYC/Long Island area and I hardly ever see one on the road, and the ones I do are OLD ones, driven by elderly men in nautical captain's hats.

Maybe Sean-Puffy-Puff-Daddy-Diddy-Diddily-Squat-Homey-Combs needs a BLING fleet for him & his POSSE. Other than that, in this economy, that plant is doomed before it starts, IMO

12 posted on 09/22/2009 6:01:33 AM PDT by Beloved Levinite (I have a new name for the occupier of The Oval Office: KING FRAUD! (pronounced King "Faa-raud"))
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13 posted on 09/22/2009 7:54:49 AM PDT by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Trade Wars and Protectionism are the rules by which our competitors have been playing. Only we seem to be dumb enough to operate under Free Trade rules.


14 posted on 09/22/2009 8:06:30 AM PDT by Wolfie
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Rolls Royce mainly sell engines these days, including for aircraft


15 posted on 09/22/2009 8:09:39 AM PDT by freepersunite
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To: RAO1125

The greatest expansion of the middle class came in the 20 years following World War II. An average blue-collar worker could own a home, raise a family with a stay-at-home Mom, put his kids through college, and retire comfortably. And what we that lead to? Activist citizens. People engaged in the political process. Our rulers took note, and have been taking steps to make sure that we’re more worried about food on our plate and a roof over our head rather than getting in their way.


16 posted on 09/22/2009 8:11:41 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: rabscuttle385
Manufacturing still exists in the United States.

Sure it does, for the example you provided, however, I could point just as easily to many examples that prove otherwise.

Free trade is dangerous only if coupled with excessive and overbearing regulation and taxes that stifle the ability to compete.

No, you are incorrect.

Free trade, as I have already posited, is also dangerous to a sovereign economy if you are unwilling to hold your trading partners accountable. If you do not hold them accountable, you WILL lose whole sectors (or most of these sectors) of your economy.
17 posted on 09/22/2009 8:17:31 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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FREE trade also includes NOT trading with someone who cheats. But then FREE trade does not need government, which is what pisses off the big government types so much.


18 posted on 09/22/2009 10:06:03 AM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: Wolfie

You can’t build a new world order without destroying the World’s solo superpower.


19 posted on 09/22/2009 11:04:44 AM PDT by RAO1125 (Neoconservatism:Failed. Socialism:Failing (again). Next up: Libertarianism)
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20 posted on 09/23/2009 10:28:09 AM PDT by bamahead (Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
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