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The Ron Paul Factor
Townhall.com ^ | Thursday, November 22, 2007 | Matt Towery

Posted on 11/22/2007 8:25:31 AM PST by George W. Bush

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They can't make up their minds. Either RP will hurt the GOP candidates for the nomination. Or he'll hurt Hillary. Or he'll hurt the GOP nominee. He might even destroy the Grand Old Party completely.

Pretty evil for an elderly baby doctor.

1 posted on 11/22/2007 8:25:33 AM PST by George W. Bush
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2 posted on 11/22/2007 8:27:27 AM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: George W. Bush

Kind of like an older Chuck Norris.


3 posted on 11/22/2007 8:31:01 AM PST by willgolfforfood
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To: George W. Bush
Actually, from what I have seen, Paul seems to be drawing at least as many out and out liberals to his cause as conservsatives and libertarians. In that, it seems he will hurt the Dems as much as anyone else.

I can say this about Paul, having met the man personally. He is NOT evil. He is NOT a whack. I disagree wholly with him on his stance on the Iraq war. But he is not against defending Ammerica as a whole, and most of his other stances on domestic issues, foreign policy, the border, and moral issues are much closer to my way of thinking that certainly any Democrat, as well as GOP candidates like Rudy.

But, we differ fundamentally on the war in Iraq and its good for our security and necessity in defeating the Islamic radicals. And for that reason I support Duncan Hunter and then Fred Thompson...in that order.

4 posted on 11/22/2007 8:40:21 AM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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I like Ron Paul but disagree on some key issues. Unfortunately he’s harming the best candidates the most.


5 posted on 11/22/2007 8:43:10 AM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: George W. Bush

What is the media obsession with Ron Paul running as a third party candidate? He’s said repeatedly at every possible occasion that he’s not running as a third party candidate. He did once run on a third party ticket, so he knows exactly of what he speaks. And he’s already filed to run for his Congressional seat, which he’s said all along is “Plan B”.

Ron Paul is running for the Republican nomination. Lots of folks have been wracking their brains to figure out some crazy scenario in which a GOP primary candidate can hurt the eventual Republican nominee, but it just ain’t so. Either Ron Paul takes on the Hildabeast in November (and IMO he would be one of the hardest candidates for her goon squad to throw mud at), or he goes back to voting “no” in Congress. Period, end of story.


6 posted on 11/22/2007 8:46:02 AM PST by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: George W. Bush

Ron Paul’s candidacy doesn’t approach even long shot status. Paul has no chance of winning the nomination. Just another campaign effort that is helping to fragment the GOP further.

If I know Rooty, he’s loving every minute of it. Whether it was his intention or not, the obvious split among conservatives continues to be working in his favor.

If conservatives want to knock Rooty off, they must unite around one candidate during the primary election phase. The fact that Paul is not that candidate should come as no surprise.


7 posted on 11/22/2007 8:55:48 AM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: George W. Bush

THanks for the ping. Good article. Happy Thanksgiving.


8 posted on 11/22/2007 8:56:28 AM PST by rineaux (How dare you, how dare you question the Clinton's wrecked record.)
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To: Jeff Head
Dr. Paul is single-handedly rebuilding the GOP. Libertarians, fiscal conservatives, and pro-American populists are all united for Paul. These are the factions that the GOP have ignored for the past six years, which explains Bush's razor-thin victory margins in his presidential elections & the GOP's 2006 mid-term defeats.

Americans also oppose any long-term commitment in the Middle East as well. I personally, do not want our troops to leave immediately and I wish Paul would recognize how god-awfully evil Islam is and the need for our troops to remain until at least the end of the decade, but unfortunately I don't speak for the masses. I just think it would be best for the GOP to compromise with Paul on this issue & start embracing some of his other views, instead of calling him a kook or Neo-Nazi which is just counter-productive and will only strengthen his campaign.

9 posted on 11/22/2007 9:07:06 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: George W. Bush

Paul just broke $9 million dollars for the 4Q!


10 posted on 11/22/2007 9:07:31 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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>>>>>Dr. Paul is single-handedly rebuilding the GOP.

Didn't realize you lived in the twilight zone.

11 posted on 11/22/2007 9:13:26 AM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: George W. Bush

Ron Paul spammers and google-bombers should be arrested and charged with Internet stalking and harassment.


12 posted on 11/22/2007 9:17:40 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Turbopilot
What is the media obsession with Ron Paul running as a third party candidate?

They're promoting this garbage so they'll have a scapegoat when the GOP nominee loses to Hillary because Paul's supporters stayed home or voted 3rd party.

It's time the GOP start embracing Paul like they're embracing pro-abortionist/homosexual rights/gun control Rudy Giuliani.

13 posted on 11/22/2007 9:29:15 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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It's time the GOP start embracing Paul like they're embracing pro-abortionist/homosexual rights/gun control Rudy Giuliani.

You know that isn't true of all of us.
14 posted on 11/22/2007 9:33:44 AM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: Reagan Man
You can enjoy living in your FR bubble where everyone supports the war and everyone is a religious conservative who'll magically vote for Fred! but it just ain't so.

I'm telling you that Paul is the ONLY Republican candidate who can unite all of the conservative factions together to defeat Hillary in the general. Not to say he'll get nominated and win, but someone like Fred! can at least accommodate Paul on some of his views to retain his supporters within the GOP. Let's face it, the GOP has completely ignored fiscal conservatism in favor of pushing socon socialism. If whoever's nominated don't start talking about limited government and at least winding down on the war, they're toast, I don't care if it's Fred! or not, the GOP does not have the votes to defeat Hillary in its present form.

15 posted on 11/22/2007 9:34:36 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: cripplecreek
You know that isn't true of all of us.

I'm not talking about FR, I'm talking about the GOP. If the party elites can get behind that POS Rudy and let him speak at the convention in 2004, then Paul also deserves a slot at the convention and some of his views embraced.

The party will endorse and support liberal RINOs but libertarians like Paul with a proven track record are given the shaft.

16 posted on 11/22/2007 9:36:27 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

If Ron Paul is such a uniter, why do sane people detest him? Even the Liberty Papers have disassociated themselves from him. Ron Paul supporters are pushing Huckabee over Thompson. You guys need to get a life.


17 posted on 11/22/2007 9:38:56 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: sageb1

Back away. Do not feed the beast. EEE lives in an alternate universe.


18 posted on 11/22/2007 9:46:59 AM PST by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Sorry. Its time to move beyond long shot and no shot candidacies and stop dwelling in the political outer limits. Backing Ron Paul is a futile effort.

Its time to return to reality. We have a unique set of circumstances this time around in the GOP field of candidates. There is a well funded liberal candidate running for the GOP nomination. While he has lost some support thanks to Fred Thompson`s candidacy, Giuliani has been the front runner for the last year and continues to hang on in poll after poll.

We don’t need rhetoric that works to divide social and fiscal conservatives even further. That is exactly the opposite of what Ronald Reagan set out to do starting in the mid-1970`s. That Reagan coalition has become seriously split because so many folks on the right are wanting their agenda to dominate GOP policy.

Bush43 hasn’t helped matters when you consider how his big government spending habits, expansion of the federal bureaucracy and desire for liberal immigration reform has worked to further split the GOP. Just look at the 2006 election results. If Bush was a strong conservative leader we wouldn’t have a fractured party, with a liberal front runner.

Republicans need to start uniting behind one conservative candidate, ASAP. Otherwise Rooty is gonna walk away with the nomination. Something that would please Hillary and Dems to know end.

19 posted on 11/22/2007 9:59:40 AM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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oops: correction: Something that would please Hillary and the Dems to know end.
20 posted on 11/22/2007 10:22:02 AM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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