Effective and Practical Counter-Terrorism Measures (Ron Paul 10/15/2001)

RON PAUL LIBRARY (ARCHIVES) ^ | 21 OCTOBER 2001 | CONGRESSMAN RON PAUL

[takenoprisoner]

Ron Paul is making sense using common sense.

And he's winning straw polls in NH

[End Times Crusader]

Yet he can’t rise above 5% in national polls.

[dcwusmc]

Anything useful to say about the actual TOPIC of this thread or is it gonna just be your usual insipid, inane and meaningless comments?

[Wolfie]

I would have expected all of these (especially the first two) to have been passed on 9/12. The fact that they weren’t is why I don’t really pay any attention to the “War on Terrorism”. Its obviously just another tool of the elite ruling class, used to scare the sheep into submission. And of course, the Kool-Aid drinkers lap it up.

[lormand]

Stenchhippy Cameltoes for Paul - Ping!

[mnehring]

Immigration Restrictions: Common sense tells us that we should not currently be admitting aliens from nations that sponsor or harbor terrorists....

Nice words, too bad he voted against putting the military and national guard on the border.

[ejonesie22]

Ok, TrippE, I’ll play...

“Letters of marque and reprisal”

Please explain to me why this would work in this day and age.

I ask this in light of the fact that no merry band of mercenaries as taken up our government's offer of 50 Million Dollars for Osama’s head. That’s pretty good scratch for a solider of fortune and his men.

[ejonesie22]

Ah details...

[SnakeDoctor]

Many of his proposals sound reasonable to enhance the current War on Terrorism. A couple of problems ...

>>> Burdensome regulations and bureaucratic turf wars hamper the ability of federal law enforcement personnel to share information about terrorists. My proposal would slash regulations and make sure the CIA, FBI, State department, Justice department, and military work together to coordinate anti-terrorism efforts.

First of all - did Ron Paul not say that he wanted to disband the CIA ... now he wants to strengthen the CIA? Which is it? Inconsistency, or backpedaling?

Secondly, this is precisely what the PATRIOT Act does - an act that has drawn some derision from Rep. Paul.

Overall - I like most of the proposals he’s given here ... they seem reasonable additions to the current counterterrorist playbook. These proposals, however, are not a comprehensive counterterriorist plan, cannot replace the current (relatively effective) counterterrorist measures implemented by the Bush Administration, and are not a reasonable substitute for an international, offensive counterterrorist strategy.

However, he implies (or perhaps states outright) that we’re currently infringing on the civil liberties of American citizens, and that the American people can and should feel threatened by the current counterterrorism measures that have been adopted. What a bunch of ACLU nonsense. The rights of the American people have not been abridged in the current War on Terrorism.

Ron Paul has some reasonably good ideas here and there ... unfortunately, he’s also got some monumentally stupid ideas as well. The reasonableness of these proposals cannot make up for previous nonsense spouted by the congressman.

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[mnehring]

Paul falls into the same problem as many democrats. On one hand, he wants to eliminate the Patriot Act- the very act designed to meet the the problems identified by the 9.11 commission, but on the other hand, he complains that the President isn’t implementing the recommendations by the 9.11 commission. Add on top of that what you’ve pointed out, Paul wanting to eliminate the CIA and you’ll find what we have here is a populist opportunist.

[Lurker]

Exactly which of his ideas do you disagree with and why do you disagree with them?

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[mnehring]

..more like:

[elhombrelibre]

I suspect she looks like most Run Paul supporters and is every bit as bright.

[JTN]

Oh, yeah? Do you have that "on good authority"?

[JTN]

On one hand, he wants to eliminate the Patriot Act- the very act designed to meet the the problems identified by the 9.11 commission, but on the other hand, he complains that the President isn’t implementing the recommendations by the 9.11 commission.

Allow me to point out the obvious. The USA PATRIOT act was not among the recommendations of the 9/11 commission report, because the 9/11 commission report didn't exist yet.

[lormand]

ejonesie22, don't be silly.

Ron Paul will hire a Janet Reno type and do an early morning minivan raid using special Letter of Marque clerks to issue the letter.

< /rolling my eyes in disappointment >

[ejonesie22]

Pirates aren’t what they used to be...

Arrgh...

[383rr]

LOL

[JTN]

I have to give credit for that graphic where it belongs. I don’t know it it’s CJ Wolf’s work, but that’s the first person I saw post it. Thanks, CJ!

[CJ Wolf]

“I have to give credit for that graphic where it belongs. I don’t know it it’s CJ Wolf’s work, but that’s the first person I saw post it. Thanks, CJ!”

I put it together and feel free to use it. Actually where credit is due is to lormand who supplied the first graphic frame over and over and then 5th. We had a dueling static graphical arguments for a while.