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FBI: Jews need not apply for Arabic linguist jobs
WorldnetDaily.com ^ | 10/9/2003 | Paul Sperry

Posted on 10/09/2003 9:12:03 PM PDT by EUPHORIC

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To: xm177e2
It sounded to me that a lot of these people were ex-IDF soldiers.

I don't want any more Pollards myself.
21 posted on 10/09/2003 11:33:33 PM PDT by TheAngryClam (Don't blame me, I voted for McClintock.)
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To: EUPHORIC
Maybe the Feds are worried about potential spies.

No.

No, that is not right, they would have the same problem with Arabs.

Just talkin' to myself.
22 posted on 10/09/2003 11:44:48 PM PDT by Pro-Bush (Homeland Security + Tom Ridge = Open Borders --> Demand Change!)
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To: EUPHORIC
I don't understand your comment.

I've been asking this question for a while: Why not hire Jews to do the interpretting? I'm still not hearing an answer.

23 posted on 10/09/2003 11:51:49 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Because they could be only pretending to be Jews? I don't know. I can only guess.
24 posted on 10/10/2003 12:01:44 AM PDT by Dec31,1999
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To: EUPHORIC
btttttttttttttttttt
25 posted on 10/10/2003 1:56:32 AM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: EUPHORIC
However, the head of the New York office recently invited a Muslim cleric to preach to New York agents about Islam’s alleged peaceful attributes as part of a bureau-wide Muslim-sensitivity training program.

FBI Director Robert Mueller has reached out to several Muslim-rights groups since the Sept. 11 attacks.

With "just us" for oil......

26 posted on 10/10/2003 5:44:57 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
I've been asking this question for a while: Why not hire Jews to do the interpretting? I'm still not hearing an answer

Christians are not very welcome either.

From National Review:

Arab Christians have been finding the doors of translation employment barely ajar to them because of their supposed inadequate understanding of Islam.

27 posted on 10/10/2003 11:34:11 AM PDT by george wythe
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To: MarkL
The last two choices are certainly taking a strong lead.
28 posted on 10/10/2003 11:38:13 AM PDT by pointsal
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To: ChicagoHebrew
The woman who wrote Terrorist Hunter is a native Iraqi Jew who worked for an independent agency that was contracted to the FBI. She did not work directly for the feds.
29 posted on 10/10/2003 11:39:18 AM PDT by Alouette (Neocon Zionist Media Operative)
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To: TheAngryClam
It sounded to me that a lot of these people were ex-IDF soldiers.

Just what secret FBI information would they give to Israel? How would translation of Arabic by Jews of Arabic descent pose a security risk to the FBI? -Especially as we are doing such a piss poor job of it already.

By your logic, no Jew could be trusted as they all are Jonathan Pollards.

30 posted on 10/10/2003 5:11:23 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum
Um, no.

I said I wouldn't want ex-IDF in those positions. IDF soldier != Jew.

I don't want any ex-soldiers of foreign nations, particularly ones that hold dual citizenship, in any areas concerning American national security.

And I can think of any number of things that someone investigating terrorists in the United States might come across that would jeopardize investigations, but would directly involve risks to foreign nations. For example, a Hamas-linked organization in Texas.
31 posted on 10/10/2003 5:56:57 PM PDT by TheAngryClam (Don't blame me, I voted for McClintock.)
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To: TheAngryClam
It was not clear by the article that the Jews in question were or were not former members of the IDF. However, all Israelis must serve a minimum of two years in the Israeli Army. So, by your logic any former resident of Israel who is now an American would not be allowed to translate for the FBI.

And I can think of any number of things that someone investigating terrorists in the United States might come across that would jeopardize investigations, but would directly involve risks to foreign nations. For example, a Hamas-linked organization in Texas.

And how would being a Jew jeopardize an investigation of an Arab terrorist group like Hamas? If anything, the Jew would want to help even more. How would being a Jew, investigating Hamas be a risk to another foreign nation? That is a completely paranoid view of Jews and Israel.

32 posted on 10/10/2003 6:11:04 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: ChicagoHebrew
My understanding was that they were actively recruiting Arabic speaking Christians shortly after 9-11. I thought about it myself for a little bit.

But since my parents refused to teach me that "barbaric" language growing up, I'd have to pretty much start from scratch...unless the documents were just assorted curse words, I've seemed to have learned them pretty well :-)

It is absolutely rediculous they'd refuse the help of people who could be of the most help, terrible!
33 posted on 10/10/2003 6:34:52 PM PDT by Keme
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To: xm177e2
As I've stated before, we need a crash program in this country to train Arabists, so that we have a domestic pool of translators. The Feds should offer programs to pay for the college or graduate education of US citizens who agree to serve a term with the government in that roll. The military language schools need to make it their top top priority. In the meantime we should use whatever resources we can outside of the MUSLIM community. Using Jews, and Christian Arabs would only make sense.
34 posted on 10/10/2003 6:41:13 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Nachum
I know many residents of Israel who have skirted the IDF requirements by living abroad or substitution the social service.

Stop substituting "Jew" too- that's really starting to get on my nerves. My problem is only with allowing former soldiers of foreign nations, even friendly allies like Israel (and likewise of the UK, as far as investigations into the Boston support of the IRA go) be allowed access to positions that present a clear conflict of loyalties.

And yes, there were former Israeli soldiers in that group:

...even though some had helped translate Arabic for Israeli radio and TV news stations and the Israeli army before coming to America, the charity's director says.

Once again, I can think of many situations where having a person with potential loyalty to a foreign nation with a potential interest in the subject matter is not ideal.

Of course, you probably have already decided that I'm on the Pat Buchanan-like fringe and that I hate Jews, so I doubt any of this will get through. I don't hate Jews- hell, I'm even dating one. Nor do I have any problems with Israel (no THE LIBERTY WAS ON PURPOSE! from me, sorry to disappoint you)- if anything, I think that Israel isn't being assertive enough in the Middle East.

That, however, doesn't mean that I'm willing to ignore potential security problems, such as hiring ex-IDF for positions with the potential for access to information that they might feel inclined to pass on to Jerusalem.

But it's just a "those evil JOOS! thing on my part, right?
35 posted on 10/10/2003 7:13:54 PM PDT by TheAngryClam (Don't blame me, I voted for McClintock.)
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To: Nachum
"I don't hate Jews- hell, I'm even dating one."

Whew! I feel better now.

36 posted on 10/11/2003 12:27:21 PM PDT by tubavil
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To: kimosabe31
A Jesuit trained friend told me that if the RCC could be compared to the USA in structure, that the Jesuits would be comparable to the State Department and the CIA.

Be wary of Jesuits.
37 posted on 01/07/2004 6:55:48 AM PST by fishtank
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To: Itzlzha
Thus we now see the legacy of Queen Cankle and her "husband", IMPOTUS X-42...

George W. Bush was president on 9/11 and afterward, when all this PC insanity was first revealed. George W. Bush is president TODAY, as the insanity continues, putting US at risk. Clinton has been gone for three years. The buck stops elsewhere now.

MM

38 posted on 01/07/2004 9:41:02 AM PST by MississippiMan
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To: MississippiMan
George W. Bush was president on 9/11 and afterward, when all this PC insanity was first revealed. George W. Bush is president TODAY, as the insanity continues, putting US at risk. Clinton has been gone for three years. The buck stops elsewhere now.

Y'know...after GWB's new "Illegal Infiltrators are OK" Doctrine today, I have TOTALLY washed my hands of these BA$TARDS! I agree...he's responsible for the continuation and PLACATION of our DEADLY ENEMIES...Islamazis!

39 posted on 01/07/2004 1:43:56 PM PST by Itzlzha (The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote!)
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