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Investigator Testifies at Bryant Hearing
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Posted on 10/09/2003 2:08:36 PM PDT by per loin
Edited on 10/09/2003 7:29:36 PM PDT by Admin Moderator.
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To: PRND21
I read it. She agreed to go to his room. She flirted and agreed to kissing. That's a big stretch from agreeing to consensual sex and ending up with bruises on her face and neck.
61
posted on
10/09/2003 2:40:44 PM PDT
by
Peach
(The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
To: Shermy
And with this one, she's an employee of the hotel, it would be natural for her to go into the room for a variety of reasons.
She went to his room when she got off work.
62
posted on
10/09/2003 2:41:14 PM PDT
by
jwh_Denver
(Damn tagline, get off my leg!)
To: TADSLOS
What do you make of that $4 million ring he gave his wife? I doubt the Queen of England has a ring that valuable.
BTW, is wifey at the court?
63
posted on
10/09/2003 2:41:30 PM PDT
by
Shermy
(Tiger Week On Free Republic)
To: aristeides
If it was just a matter of being desperate for sex, what was stopping him from hiring a prostitute?Naivete and the fear of being found out - irrational, but understandable, considering his fame and image up to that point. I'm not an apologist for him. He needs to pay the price for crimes committed. He bought into the sports superstar bit, which led to this situation.
64
posted on
10/09/2003 2:41:42 PM PDT
by
TADSLOS
(Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
To: per loin
Bryant has the right to go to trial within six months, but he could agree to push that back until later, perhaps after the NBA season ends early next summer. Since when are criminal trials scheduled for the personal convenience of the defendant?
65
posted on
10/09/2003 2:42:05 PM PDT
by
Brandon
To: Shermy
How far was the consent? According to Dan Abrams, who was in the court room and reported for MSNBC immediately after the detective's testimony, the accuser said she went along with hugging and kiss for a few minutes. When Bryant put his hands under her clothes, she asked him to stop. He didn't. If that story holds up, Bryant is going away for a long time.
66
posted on
10/09/2003 2:48:42 PM PDT
by
Brandon
To: per loin
Summary Of Accuser's Statement To Det. Doug Winter
Alleged Victim Tells Detective That There Was Mutual Flirting, Kissing
POSTED: 3:16 p.m. MDT October 9, 2003
UPDATED: 3:34 p.m. MDT October 9, 2003
Eagle County Detective Doug Winter said he interviewed the alleged victim at the sheriff's department.
The alleged victim told Winter that she was excited about meeting Bryant when she heard that he would be a guest at the resort. She said that while she was showing Byrant and two people in his entourage up to their rooms, he pulled her aside and asked her to give him a tour of the hotel.
She said there was "mutual flirting" during the tour, Winter said.
She said Bryant invited her back to his room and she went in and sat on a couch while he sat on a chair nearby. They chatted about tattoos and he asked her to show the tattoo she said she had on her back. She lifted her skirt and showed him. When she thought she was leaving, she asked for his autograph in which he replied that he would give it to her later when she came back to his room.
She said he asked for a hug and she gave him one and then he began kissing her mouth, her neck -- actions she said she agreed to. She said the kissing lasted about 5 minutes. She said he then began to grope her breasts and butt. He began putting his hand under her panties, and she told him that she had to leave.
She said she was trying to leave when Bryant "grabbed her around the neck."
She said that he was trying to block her movement. She said she was afraid and he started to follow her as she moved toward the door. She said that he had both of his hands around her neck and was "controlling her movements."
She said he then bent her over a chair, pulled up skirt and pulled her panties down. She said that she told him that she needed to leave "and at one point, stated no," Winter said.
She said she began crying when the sexual intercourse started and didn't stop until it was over about 5 minutes later. She said the sex was painful.
She said that while the intercourse was occurring he asked if she was going to tell anyone about it. She said no. He asked her to look at him and again confirm that she would not tell anyone. She said she did that because she was afraid. She said when the incident was "about to end" she started prying his hands off her neck, and then she said he stopped.
She said she turned around and pulled up her underwear. He asked her to go clean up in the bathroom. She said before she left Bryant told her she shouldn't tell anyone. She said she then ran down to the front desk and told the bellman everything that had happened.
Winters said that while he was interviewing her, there was another deputy in the interview room as well as a victim's advocate. The interview was videotaped but the videotape was not allowed to be submitted in the preliminary hearing because it was deemed too prejudicial. An audiotape of Kobe Byrant's statement was also pulled from preliminary hearing.
Winter said that before she began telling her story, he told her that if this was a false accusation, that she would be in big trouble. She said that she understood.
67
posted on
10/09/2003 2:49:46 PM PDT
by
jimbo123
To: jimbo123
Kobe's gonna make some new friends in prison.
68
posted on
10/09/2003 2:54:58 PM PDT
by
So Cal Rocket
(Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few; and let another take his office. (Recall Davis))
To: sissyjane
According to CNN she had a laceration on her jaw,and her "privates". Also from CNN Wolf Blitzer: Reporter said to have kids out of the room for this report: Kobe asked her to kiss his private parts and she said no, and then he MADE HER DO IT!
Clintons' legacy huh?
Karen
69
posted on
10/09/2003 2:57:36 PM PDT
by
KE
To: Shermy
"consensual sexual encounter"
With this case coming on now, it's going to be a tossup as to what term has been more worn out by the media....that or, "(number of casualties goes here)since George W. Bush declared an end to major combat operations".
70
posted on
10/09/2003 2:57:56 PM PDT
by
ErnBatavia
(Why do the Flag postage stamps peel off upside down..infiltrators?)
To: Peach
Eagle County Sheriff's Detective Doug Winters said the woman described a consensual sexual encounter that spiraled out of her control.
71
posted on
10/09/2003 2:58:19 PM PDT
by
PRND21
To: PRND21
What is being portrayed by those who listened to the testimony is a woman who agreed she was flirting and agreed to kiss Kobe Bryant. If that is described by the Sheriff as consensual sexual encounter, then I had a lot more of those in high school than I thought. I thougt I was just kissing.
72
posted on
10/09/2003 3:01:17 PM PDT
by
Peach
(The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
To: mountaineer
The deputy also said the victim told him she had not showered since the alleged incident, so investigators retrieved the clothing she wore that night -- a dress, a coat, her shoes and underwear This is pretty incriminating toward Kobe. But, the fact that she never showered and had preserved all the evidence tells me somebody was doing some number crunching.
I say call it a wash.
73
posted on
10/09/2003 3:02:46 PM PDT
by
riri
To: TADSLOS
Re: your 48. I think you probably are right on the money.
74
posted on
10/09/2003 3:03:48 PM PDT
by
riri
To: riri
HUH? Every woman who has been raped understands the importance of not destroying the evidence/DNA. Some women can't stand it and bathe anyway.
75
posted on
10/09/2003 3:04:29 PM PDT
by
Peach
(The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
To: Peach
I thougt I was just kissing. It may be, I'm just responding to the article and not trying to argue with you.
76
posted on
10/09/2003 3:04:43 PM PDT
by
PRND21
To: PRND21
Please read the detective's summary in #67. Apparently, what a (stupid) reporter called "consensual sexual" encounter was actually a kiss and a hug. Not my idea of sex, but it's the media, no accounting for how they report things.
Given that it was a kiss and a hug (according to the summary), I don't think it's a given that he will "walk"--although anything is possible.
77
posted on
10/09/2003 3:05:00 PM PDT
by
MizSterious
(First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
To: PRND21
Ditto.
I just hadn't understood the new terminology, I guess. Consensual sexual encounter always meant intercourse when I was young.
78
posted on
10/09/2003 3:05:30 PM PDT
by
Peach
(The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
To: Peach
"consensual sexual encounter"
That means just kissing to you?
To: per loin
I don't buy it... the invetigator didn't notice the bruise the night before, but the nurse does the next day?? I am dubious to say the least...and....and... no jury will put Koby in jail with out more evidence.... It is just the way it is.
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