New Zealand spurns US 'think-again' message on nukes

The Dominion Post, Wellington, New Zealand ^ | October 9 2003 | Tracy Watkins

[shaggy eel]

The speech comes just two weeks out from the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation leaders' summit in Thailand, where Prime Minister Helen Clark will rub shoulders with US President George W Bush.

,,, if President Bush can marginalise Arafat, he's got my permission to marginalise Clark.

Mr Goff said it contained nothing new. "The Government has no intention of reviewing its nuclear policy. The Government's stance is in line with what ordinary New Zealanders feel about nuclear-armed and powered ships."

,,, which recent referendum indicated that, Phil? New Zealanders aren't being consulted about any of the major changes going thru at breakneck speed under the Labour government. Nice to have some mid 80's sentiment to call on, isn't it?

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[shaggy eel]

FYI

[shaggy eel]

FYI

[Renfield]

If you have a New Zealand ping list, please add me to it.

I love the place, and hate to see it chafing under the boot of Helen Clark. New Zealanders (along with, perhaps, Aussies) strike me as closest in temperment and outlook, among the world's peoples, to Americans; I cannot fathom how it is that they have such a left-wing government.

[shaggy eel]

,,, thanx for your interest - you're added to the list. Klark is where she is because of public apathy and the previous administration losing it's way.

[stanz]

the US probably would have liked many of its friends to have joined the war. The reality was very few did.

Perhaps the U.S. should rethink its foreign policy - - especially when it comes to designating those that are considered "friends."

[blackie]

New Zealand needs regime change ~ Now!

[shaggy eel]

,,, yep, it seems pretty clear on the basis of what Klark is saying. To make it clearer, China's President is visiting New Zealand right after the APEC round.

[shaggy eel]

BTTT

[stanz]

There you go.....methinks I smell something rotten in NZ.

[blackie]

ACT ~ Now!

[AMNZ]

,,, if President Bush can marginalise Arafat, he's got my permission to marginalise Clark.

Shaggy, I think you are obsessed with "marginalizing" Clark. But, I would happily have a beer or six on that. With regard to the greenies, guess I am just behind - did you see how much Frenchy electricity comes from nukes?

Anyway, thanks for the post - Hope you are doing well. Eight weeks to Blenheim!!!

[shaggy eel]

Eight weeks to Blenheim!!!

,,, the political scene is lousey but the Savignon Blanc is supreme [LOL!]

[Travis McGee]

Godzone is blessed by geography, it can play the silly fool, knowing that Uncle Sam will ride to the rescue if the Chinese come looking for bases.

[shaggy eel]

,,, New Zealand's Labour government is playing the silly fool on a whole lot of issues, not just defence.

[MHGinTN]

Gosh, I don't know what to make of this one, shaggy! I was under the impression that our allies were free to participate as they could and chose to do, not under some demand that they participate as we dictate.

[shaggy eel]

,,, how are ya MG? It's pretty clear the US is dictating terms and it's sad to see they have to. In an ideal world, spelling it out to this extent wouldn't be on the cards. The trouble is, Helen Klark's playing her cards from the butt end of idealism's deck.

[Terriergal]

I'm still stuck on "why are we worried about NZ's anti nuclear stance?"

[The Iguana]

Shaggy,

Ain't nothing gonna happen while Clark is in there.

Of course Bulger didn't change the policy either, but with a center-right government there's at least a chance of some flexibility.

I hope that the free trade agreement happens. But I am wondering what Clark thinks it will take to get it.