Arnold's corruption of Republican Party

World Net Daily ^ | 10/6/2003 | ALAN KEYES

[B Knotts]

It's rather Carvillian of them, wouldn't you say?

[tkathy]

While the dems troll under bridges and in the flop houses for votes, the evangelicals and RCCs are busy labeling tens of millions of voters as murderers and equating birth control with the moral equivelence of Hitler.

[zook]

"Get thee to a gas chamber" is a line from the National Review's original review of Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged." The line was used to describe the tone of her tome. You gotta know your history and read these things in context.

[churchillbuff]

Apparently Doug is someone who is able to see a difference between the boorish behavior of a group compared to a vicious biting rape and the threatening of a victim's children. If Arnold gropes once as a public official, I want him gone.

Your post is internally inconsistent. First, you call ARnold's alleged groping merely "boorish behavior" -- but then you say if he did it as an officehold, you'd want him gone. So you admit that it's bad - - (and molesting, which is the more accurate term is more than boorish, it's criminal) - - - but you don't think it's disqualifying for someone who is merely a candidate, only for an officeholder? No,you're right, I'm too dense to understand those distinctions.

[eskimo]

How many of "these people" do you suppose are Democrats and their real agenda is to divide Republican voters and try to keep Republicans out of as many offices as possible?

Perhaps the "these people" you speak of are the ones who have not foolishly allowed themselves to be politically mutilated with party blinders.

Perhaps they just want real conservatives as leaders.

[kellynla]

"think it should only be used in cases of gross corruption or incompetence, and California's problems can't all be blamed on Davis"... If you don't think that the Dimwit Davis is not guilty of "gross corruption or incompetence" you have a lot of learning of events in CA over the past 5 years to catch up on...and I won't keep you from it...have a good day...but with you living in Seattle you have enough problems of your own...

[churchillbuff]

RAPE DOES NOT EQUAL A GRAB

Did you tell that to Kathleen Willey? Did you tell her to keep quiet because she had only been grabbed, not raped? I hope you didn't tell her that, because being grabbed by the breasts is MOLESTATION. If somebody did it to your wife or daughter on a bus, you'd want him arrested, I hope. You WOULDN'T say, "oh, it's ok because it's not rape." Doug, I used to view you as a great champion of character and high standards. It seems this Arnold candidacy - - and your need to make excuses for him - - is dragging you down.

[Howlin]

"Many conservatives believe that the Clinton presidency was the most dangerous time we have faced, as Americans and conservatives, in the history of the country. I do not share this belief. Rather, I believe that we are now entering that most dangerous era. For the bullet you hear is not the one that kills you. Organized and conscious advocacy of the principles that have made American liberty possible since the founding is unlikely to die at the hands of an explicit and avowed enemy like Bill Clinton. It is actually more likely that conservatives will passively accept political euthanasia for their cause at the hands of someone we have too readily believed could be entrusted with its wise care."

[Writesider]

LOL...such ignorance writ large.

Keyes was UN Ambassador when Reagan was President. His moral code was instrumental in leveraging the morality and virtuous courage of Pope John Paul. Together, these three great men stood shoulder to shouder while their ultimate goal for humanity was pursued; the systematic destruction of the most evil regime on earth; the Soviet Union.

[sd-joe]

>> "California Republican Party, could have very easily invited him to leave." <<

They could have invited him to leave, but it probably wouldn't make any difference. Arnold decided to run on his own, he has his own personal ambitions, just like McC has his own personal ambitions.

>> "Simon lost precisely because he didn't stick to what he claimed were his principles when the pressure mounted " <<

Really, what principles did he not stick to? Simon lost because Davis spent a lot of money publicising garbage about Simon.

>> "California, as liberal as it supposedly is, would elect a conservative." <<

It did in the past (Reagan) and I hope it will in the future, but the dynamics are not in favor of that at this point in time.

You slam the CA Repub party, but McC has to take some responsibility for not being a team player in the past.

The Ca Repub party wants to win, and has made its choice based on the best analysis that they could do as to which candidate would achieve that.

[EternalVigilance]

Yeah, right. You're crying rivers of tears...

[Howlin]

Perhaps the "these people" you speak of are the ones who have not foolishly allowed themselves to be politically mutilated with party blinders.

I see you fit this description to a T:

PUNCH THIS

[Miss Marple]

Keyes was not THE UN Ambassador. He was an under-ambasador to some UN agency. Jean Kirkpatrick, was, I believe, tha ambassador to the UN.

Of course don't let that stop you from elevating Keyes to the same level as the Pope.

[Major_Risktaker]

"Tuesday's recall election in California"

The key word is "CALIFORNIA" and a 50% Republican Platform
victory is better than no Republican Platfom victory at all.

Now MCCLINTOCK a great man and his time will come
but in "CALIFORNIA" you must take small steps. "Inch by
inch is a cinch. Yard by yard is very hard."

MCClintock is 100% republican and that is to hard
for a win in CALIFORNIA at this time. Right, Davis women
in California are going to vote for a candidate with a vision
of overturning Roe vs. Wade at this time. Dream on!

Germorat's on the other hand, showed up with CLINTON,
JACKSON, GORE, BS and the Press working overtime
not to lose the state to whom?

ARNOLD!

Something about Arnold scares those Germorat's
and that is good enough for me at this time one
year out from National Elections.

MCClinktock should fall on his sword and
join Arnold for the good of the party. At this
time I'll take 50% Republican win over no win at all.

Tomorrow is a day late and a dollar short for
Tom McClintock. Today is his last day to unify
his part of the Republican Party even with half
a platform, it’s better than no platform at all.

Sometimes it's better to hold you nose and go
to a party, than to sit home and not go to a party
at all.

[SunStar]

The election tomorrow is not a primary.

Nor is it a general election. It is a free-for-all.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

ROFLMAO - Did you actually keep a straight face when you wrote that?

[churchillbuff]

Doug, I'm deeply worried that Arnold is going to give us big problems once he's elected. If he really has a history of a serial groper, dating back decades, that suggests psychological problems and he might do it again -- creating a huge scandal (which the Clintons would love, because it would vindicate their everybody-does-it claims). Moreover, we could also be seeing a Paula-type lawsuit from one of the alleged past victims, and a governor wouldn't have near the argument for putting off the lawsuit that Clinton, as president had (and Clinton wasn't successful, either). Moreover, some of these past groping allegations, if true, could be criminal, and a prosecution might be launched -- creating a huge sensation that would undermine any effectiveness for Arnold's administration and give the GOP big headaches. THERE'S A REAL DANGER WE'RE BUYING BIG TROUBLE WITH THIS GUY.

[EternalVigilance]

Well, he may not be the Pope--as he would tell you himself--but he has certainly done more than anybody here--save the Robinsons--to elevate conservativism.

[hocndoc]

Thank you, I found that (took too long to write my post, so hadn't seen blackies' #231 link.).

Thank you, blackie.



I agree with what Ambassador Keyes says virtually all the time. But, he forgets that not everyone understands the issues or has thought them through. He would do better to teach, instead of condemn.

I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. Mr. Keyes should understand that if he's so smart, he could explain himself without trying to make the other person wrong or dumb. And Mr. Schwarzenegger needs a little more thought about the hard issues.

(They just need to listen to me for a few minutes. I could fix 'em.)

[B Knotts]

If Schwarzenegger really was 50% on board with the GOP platform, there would be little opposition to him here.

The true figure is more like 10-15%.