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McClintock Beats Bustamante in CA Recall!
Gallup Poll ^ | 9/30/03 | Gallup Poll

Posted on 09/30/2003 3:43:00 PM PDT by evilsmoker

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To: nopardons
FR will NEVER return to the days when we were all just Conservatives. The Balkinisation of FR, is here to saty and shall, IMHO, only continue to get worse.

Free Republic was Anti-Clinton at it's start. All of us could see the criminality and abuses of that regime. We held a common view of THAT mob's outrageous corruption of the rule of law and our Constitution. Everything changed the day the Senate failed to find Clinton guilty of Impeachment charges. Some of us saw that 50 of 53 GOP Senators voted guilty for one or all of the counts, and 0 of 47 Democrats voted guilty, and blamed the Democrats. A vocal element blamed the Republicans, and have blamed the Republicans for their every slight, insult and woe since. FR is what happens when bitter old men get internet access.

It's crapola. The great schism was that some of us were able to move our support to a Party, a candidate and a political campaign that would represent a move toward our interests, priorities and principles. Some here didn't specifically hate Clinton and the Democrats for the abuse they caused and continue to cause, they hate ANYONE of ANY PARTY who is in power. It was Trent Lott who was the problem. It's George W. Bush. It's Colin Powell. It's the RINOs, it's the NeoCons, it's the globalists, it's the sellouts and free traitors and Replocrats and Bushbots and .... well, anyone anywhere who has any political office or influence or power. The recount never happened. The Jeffords switch never happened. 9/11 never happened. Senate filibusters never happened. We're not at war, abroad and from enemies within. Democrats don't exist.

They're just anti-everything. They jumped on Buchanan. They jump on McClintock. They'll jump on Tancredo. They love Michael Savage. They jump on immigration. Outsourcing. Whatever suits their bitter indulgance.

If Arnold defeats McClintock decisively, we should all learn a lesson here about the foolishness of capitulating to those whose political support is entirely issue dependent, and who demand and extort and destroy rather than contribute and influence consensus and build.

201 posted on 09/30/2003 9:12:07 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: Tempest
Then you can have little fascist, elitest children together.

LOL!!
You liberals always call people who oppose your pro-gun control, pro-homosexual adoption, pro-illegal aliens, and pro-abortion candidates, "fascists".
(Tip: That's really getting stale.)

Peace and Love,
LH

202 posted on 09/30/2003 9:14:28 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
No I was refering to you and Dat as a facist simply because it seemed like the both of you were getting ready to mate. Due to your mutually false superiority complexes.
203 posted on 09/30/2003 9:16:48 PM PDT by Tempest
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To: Tempest
No I was refering to you and Dat as a facist simply because it seemed like the both of you were getting ready to mate. Due to your mutually false superiority complexes.

You're a girl, aren't you?

204 posted on 09/30/2003 9:19:48 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
"You're a girl, aren't you?"

Nope. But I'm sure that if I were you wouldn't be man enough for me. Anyways I thought you were already crusin for a date.

205 posted on 09/30/2003 9:21:09 PM PDT by Tempest
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To: Lancey Howard
You liberals always call people who oppose your pro-gun control, pro-homosexual adoption, pro-illegal aliens, and pro-abortion candidates, "fascists".

You're like the fat slob sitting in the bar drinking Old Milwaukee watching TV and calling Tracey McGrady or Brett Favre a "worthless bum".

Nobody gives a rat's ass about your principles.

206 posted on 09/30/2003 9:26:31 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: BunnySlippers
double .....YAWN. They really are grasping at straws.
207 posted on 09/30/2003 9:26:44 PM PDT by Moosefart ("En ma fin git mon commencement.")
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To: ArneFufkin
You're correct about everything, but one small point...they aren't all " OLD ".

In the early days, they were as happy as could be, becuase ALL of us here were miserable. When the primary season.election of 2000 arrived, the chance that we could finally get rid of the Clintons and have a Republican president, wasn't " good " enough for them; no, they, as you said, went to the fringe. They went there becuase it was the losing side and no, wining isn't " principled ". And, " principles ", don't you know, are a far better thing, than attaining even a little of what one desires.

Frankly, I am repulsed by those here, who claim that party loyalty is akin to being an idiot, anti-Christian, and worse. This is utter nonsense !

I have accused them of being political naifs. I do so again. Some have said that that is a personal attack; it isn't. There are far too many here, and in the real world too, who only imagine that the know and understand politics. They may have an " interest " in it, but they neither know much about it, nor do the understand it and the workings of government...on any level. Ergo, they are political naifs.

Pragmatism is a valid position to take. Incrimentalism, MUST be done by " our " side, as the Dems have practiced it skillfully for generations. There is no instant gratification of goals, in poltics, as in life. No politician is going to give the voters ( and those who didn't vote for him/her ) 100%, or even 70% of what they think they should be getting. And, it's very much better to get something, than absolutely NOTHING , from elected officials.

Those who claim that there's not a dime's worth of difference bewteen the two major parties are blinded by their own delusions and need to educate themselves better.

One or two issue people, who refuse to vote, " on principle " ( hahahahaha ) for someone who isn't 100% or 90% in concert with them, deserve every horror and problem that they get; but, the rest of us don't! That's why " SPOILERS " should be shunned.

208 posted on 09/30/2003 9:29:20 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: ArneFufkin
Oh, another surrender monkey.
Congratulations.
209 posted on 09/30/2003 9:32:36 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
Lets see how out of gas CC is when Arnie is sworn in as gov.
You can find a whole new set of reasons to whine....lol
210 posted on 09/30/2003 9:34:28 PM PDT by Moosefart ("En ma fin git mon commencement.")
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To: Lancey Howard
Still calling people names I see.
211 posted on 09/30/2003 9:34:47 PM PDT by CheneyChick (www.JoinArnold.com - "Let's Bring Kah-lee-fohr-nya Back")
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To: ArneFufkin
Nobody gives a rat's ass about your principles.

There's that big tent agenda again.

212 posted on 09/30/2003 9:35:43 PM PDT by nunya bidness (sic utere tuo ut alienum non laedas)
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To: CheneyChick
Still calling people names I see.

You mean in my post to that clown who likened me to a "fat slob sitting in the bar drinking Old Milwaukee"?

Get lost.

213 posted on 09/30/2003 9:38:08 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: ElkGroveDan
So many people have swallowed the liberal pablum that says Tom can't win.

Tom is getting his best endorsements from the liberals, art torres, van hueven (spelling? from NPR), Cruz, and Huffington.

214 posted on 09/30/2003 9:38:53 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: Tempest; ArneFufkin
TOO FUNNY, your posts #205 and #206 --- LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
215 posted on 09/30/2003 9:39:10 PM PDT by onyx (Ask the Indian$)
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To: evilsmoker
Bump and praying!!!!!!
216 posted on 09/30/2003 9:40:34 PM PDT by pollywog
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To: ArneFufkin
"Conservative" still has a distinct political and ideological meaning in the world outside Free Republic, but it has been mangled beyond recognition within the forum. When Michael Medved, Dennis Prager, Hugh Hewitt, Dana Rohrbacher, Duke Cunningham, Chris Cox, Sean Hannity, Bill Thomas, Bill Simon and Duncan Hunter are no longer considered "real conservatives" by mutants here ... I don't want to be a "real conservative".


prescient... but you realize of course, that you are no doubt an ideological sell out. apparently we are in good company... when they called Issa a car theif and rino baby murderor... I really began to wonder, do I want to be considered a "friend" of these kind of folks? A fellow "conservative"?

I think not.
Better to be a RINO... if Issa, Bush and Arnold are...

217 posted on 09/30/2003 9:40:50 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (robert... the rino...)
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To: Lancey Howard
you mean you dont drink Old Milwaukee????
218 posted on 09/30/2003 9:41:28 PM PDT by Moosefart ("En ma fin git mon commencement.")
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To: Lancey Howard
Stop with the name calling and personal attacks !

I realize, of course, that you're one of those more equal than others, here, but that doesn't make you correct, nor all that special.

219 posted on 09/30/2003 9:41:58 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Lancey Howard
Pay attention. You are so quick to strike you aren't even looking to which post I was responding.

You mean in my post to that clown who likened me to a "fat slob sitting in the bar drinking Old Milwaukee"?

I hadn't seen that one, but now that you pointed it out, thanks!

220 posted on 09/30/2003 9:43:02 PM PDT by CheneyChick (www.JoinArnold.com - "Let's Bring Kah-lee-fohr-nya Back")
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